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Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by cm2187 on Saturday June 13, 2020 @02:03AM (#23507211)
Though frustrating, the rest of the world has had to deal with the extra-territoriality of US laws for decades now, particularly in finance. I don't think it's good. But at least it is recriprocal.
Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by DiogenesKynikos on Saturday June 13, 2020 @03:10AM (#23507497)
And that extraterritoriality is being used to cut the countries (Iran, Cuba) off from international trade.
Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by nokya on Saturday June 13, 2020 @04:39AM (#23507919)
Yes, not only from trade, but also from humanitarian help, as it just recently happened when the USA threatened to sanction any of its "allies" who would try selling care/health material to Iran.
Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by theferalrobot on Saturday June 13, 2020 @11:20AM (#23510037)
For Europe: see GDPR

It’s entirely common for countries to have codes that affect those outside their borders - especially ones that were agreed upon in treaty or trade deal. What is unique here is a country demanding that a non local company engage in censorship outside its territory. These two things are nothing alike

Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by DiogenesKynikos on Saturday June 13, 2020 @06:33PM (#23513404)
Forcing the entire world to stop trading with a country is way more serious than forcing a nonlocal video conferencing company to suspend an account.

The extraterritorial application of US economic sanctions goes way beyond anything any other country is doing to impose its laws abroad.

Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by theferalrobot on Saturday June 13, 2020 @06:40PM (#23513451)
You are referring to things that were agreed to in international treaties and trade negotiations - again these sorts of things are super common
Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by DiogenesKynikos on Sunday June 14, 2020 @03:21AM (#23515748)
No, I'm referring to unilateral measures the US takes to force countries that do not themselves have sanctions against Iran and Cubs to stop trading with those countries.

These secondary sanctions are not based on international treaties and trade negotiations. They're based on levers of power that the US possesses and exploits, much to the chagrin of foreign countries. They are also not common. There's no other country that comes close to imposing its trade policy on the rest of the world in this manner.

Re:Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts at Chi... by theferalrobot on Monday June 15, 2020 @04:14PM (#23532422)
> These secondary sanctions are not based on international treaties and trade negotiations

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about - these things don’t just happen overnight cause the US says so.

Sanctions in this case have been discussed and formalized by multiple groups and organizations including OECD, FATF and the UN Security Council.