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Re:Jim Keller Resigns from Intel, Effective Immediately by alphakappa on Friday June 12, 2020 @10:48AM (#23499744)
Elon's PayPal wealth is not a rare occurrence. There are over 500 billionaires in just the US alone. His wealth was an essential ingredient for sure, but it must be obvious that it takes more than wealth to create a company like SpaceX.
Re:Jim Keller Resigns from Intel, Effective Immediately by blaser-waffle on Friday June 12, 2020 @10:55AM (#23499819)
500 billionaires in a country of 330 million people?

What do you think rare is, then?

I'd argue that wealth is step 1, but step 2 is a willingness to gamble that wealth, to lose it, and to hustle.

Re:Jim Keller Resigns from Intel, Effective Immediately by elliekelly on Friday June 12, 2020 @11:27AM (#23500194)
And of the billionaires I’ve met none would be willing to risk losing a comma no matter how big the potential payoff. In that respect Elon is definitely the 1% of the 1%.
Re:Jim Keller Resigns from Intel, Effective Immediately by sunstone on Saturday June 13, 2020 @02:43AM (#23507369)
Forbes (a website I despise) did a survey of people and how much they worried about money. As I recall even those with $3bn still worried about not having enough money. I'm not sure if that feeling is ingrained from evolving on the plains of Africa or if it's about losing status among your peers.
Re:Jim Keller Resigns from Intel, Effective Immediately by 1MoreThing on Friday June 12, 2020 @01:02PM (#23501258)
Wait, you've met multiple billionaires?
Re:Jim Keller Resigns from Intel, Effective Immediately by RNCTX on Friday June 12, 2020 @11:21AM (#23500133)
It helps when NASA is laying off everyone you need to hire, and they have no other choice of a place to work (unless they like blowing up poor kids in poor countries for Raytheon).

It should also be noted that he was not a founder at Tesla, even. He bought his way in.

Re:Jim Keller Resigns from Intel, Effective Immediately by Klathmon on Friday June 12, 2020 @12:24PM (#23500781)
>It helps when NASA is laying off everyone you need to hire, and they have no other choice of a place to work

Actually Musk has said in the past that they had a LOT of trouble hiring early on. They had goals of reusable rockets right around the start of the company, and most people in the industry didn't take them seriously.

Nobody wanted to work for the laughing stock of a company that dreamed of doing something that most thought was impossible (affordably reusing rocket stages).

Re:Jim Keller Resigns from Intel, Effective Immediately by RNCTX on Saturday June 13, 2020 @06:49AM (#23508539)
People who pay astroturfers by the dozens might not be trustworthy sources of information.
Re:Jim Keller Resigns from Intel, Effective Immediately by valuearb on Saturday June 13, 2020 @01:47AM (#23507130)
He founded Tesla through force of will. They had a concept but no funding and no drivetrain. Elon got them funded and hooked them up with an engineer he had been funding to build a drivetrain. Their original roadster was going to cost $200,000+ just to build, Elon pushed them out of the way and saved the company.
Re:Jim Keller Resigns from Intel, Effective Immediately by RNCTX on Saturday June 13, 2020 @06:48AM (#23508535)
He did not found Tesla.
Re:Jim Keller Resigns from Intel, Effective Immediately by valuearb on Saturday June 13, 2020 @04:45PM (#23512544)
If he hasn’t gotten involved, it would have failed. That’s indisputable. The common usage of founder nowadays doesn’t require someone was an employee on day 1, it means they were instrumental in its early days and Elon certainly was.
Re:Jim Keller Resigns from Intel, Effective Immediately by serf on Friday June 12, 2020 @01:04PM (#23501279)
>There are over 500 billionaires in just the US alone. His wealth was an essential ingredient for sure, but it must be obvious that it takes more than wealth to create a company like SpaceX.

it's just that there are lots of low risks ways to make money with lots of capital than to risk wasting it on engineering or 'boundary-push' style business movements.

Big projects are cool, and great PR -- but safe trading and high interest accounts pay out more consistently, and often better.

It'd be nice to move the incentive over to value-building/engineering more than banking, though.