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Re:Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors by TA0X6 on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @11:32PM (#23484966)
Not sure what part of "payment processors can discriminate" you don't understand. Even if you purchased your own hardware, your ISP, the payment processor you use to pay your ISP, your registrar, the payment processor you use to pay your registrar, etc. are not neutral entities. That makes "host your own" meaningless.
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Re:Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors by nexuist on Thursday June 11, 2020 @12:33AM (#23485217)
The payment processor I use to pay my ISP and registrar like...my bank account?

To date I have never heard of anyone having their Internet cut off because their ISP did not like their political views. I am pretty sure neonazis are welcome to use all ISPs, from Comcast to Cox.

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Re:Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors by TA0X6 on Thursday June 11, 2020 @01:19AM (#23485427)
>The payment processor I use to pay my ISP and registrar like...my bank account?

Even if it's your bank account, you're still using a payment processor. Even if that's your bank, they can also decide not to do business with you.

>To date I have never heard of anyone having their Internet cut off because their ISP did not like their political views. I am pretty sure neonazis are welcome to use all ISPs, from Comcast to Cox.

Google what happened to Stormfront. Not that I agree with their views, but their ISPs, registrars, etc. told them to pound sand.

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Re:Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors by nexuist on Thursday June 11, 2020 @05:36AM (#23486883)
What happened to Stormfront was due to them being involved in egging on mass shootings. You are free to say whatever you want but you cannot incite violence. Is that not the system working? They were not banned for being racists; they were banned for being killers.
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Re:Reddit Welcomes Michael Seibel to Board of Directors by TA0X6 on Thursday June 11, 2020 @11:25AM (#23489845)
>What happened to Stormfront was due to them being involved in egging on mass shootings. You are free to say whatever you want but you cannot incite violence.

Promotion of hatred is not egging on mass shootings. Inciting violence is indeed illegal, but they were not taken offline due to that.

>They were not banned for being racists; they were banned for being killers.

Incorrect. They were not taken offline due to a order/warrant/etc. They were taken offline because it was politically expedient for their services providers to.

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