25 Years of PHP

Re:25 Years of PHP by jimmaswell on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @04:04PM (#23481423)

So TLF's exist and get used constantly but people don't write them often in code you look at (they do in the code I look at), you don't have to use classes and lots of pages don't but frameworks tend to stick with them, there are global variables, the syntax looks a lot more like C but class semantics exist, therefore it's exactly like Java. Whatever, if that's how you see it I guess I can't stop you.

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Re:25 Years of PHP by ragnese on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @04:48PM (#23481917)

Syntax != semantics

And, even with syntax, the singular part of the syntax that looks like C is the arrow for method calls. Everything else looks like Java, including the fact that you use `struct` to group data in C, not `class`.

Also, you said C++ originally, not C. And PHP classes are NOTHING like C++ classes. They are everything like Java classes.

You're just wrong about being inspired by C++. At least in its current form.

Top level functions DO exist, admittedly. I just never see any libraries use them. I assume it's because the autoloader and composer work better with classes. What projects do you look at that use TLFs? Also, may I ask why you'd prefer them to static methods on classes (with private ctor). Isn't it less convenient to import them?

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Re:25 Years of PHP by jimmaswell on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @07:04PM (#23483207)

I never said PHP was inspired by C++. There are some similarities to any language of course but to me it's closer to looking like C with classes which is where the C++ comparison came from. Not really interested in that subject anymore.

> What projects do you look at that use TLFs?

Drupal defines a lot of TLF's and I've seen user-defined ones in it sometimes. Smaller/hobby projects use them a lot.

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