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Re:Working Group Last Call: QUIC protocol drafts by zozbot234 on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @11:29AM (#23478163)
> QUIC hides flow control parameters from the network

It's not clear that this is a good thing. You generally want things like network-provided congestion notification+control, and plain vanilla UDP won't be enough for this.

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Re:Working Group Last Call: QUIC protocol drafts by jeffbee on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @11:35AM (#23478242)
Well, the end-to-end argument is that you are wrong. You never want the network to do anything smart. ECN is fine, and does not require the network to have visibility into flow control parameters.

https://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/endtoend/endtoe...

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