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Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by jkubicek on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @10:53AM (#23477639)
“Cant’t take a joke” is a terrible excuse for making people uncomfortable.

People are sensitive, impostor syndrome is extremely common. The people who work for you are always going to be worried about their job at some level. Don’t take advantage of your power to make a joke that is, at best, not funny and at worst incredibly anxiety-inducing.

Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by Kronen on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @11:21AM (#23478070)
Don't generalize, not all people are mentally weak and get uncomfortable or offended that easily even when that's the trend in the 21st century.

A manager, like everyone else, should know who to make a joke to, and he will get closer to those employees.

Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by bzb3 on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @10:55AM (#23477662)
That's exactly what I said. Sensitive people or people with impostor syndrome are problematic. I think those people are the problem, and not jokey managers. But we can disagree, that's okay. :)
Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @11:17AM (#23477997)
Or people with autism spectrum disorders, or other issues (just being tired, say), who might find the nuance of your joke impossible to gauge?

Your job as a manager, with "sensitive" reportees is not to be a dick and make things uncomfortable for them, it's to help them do the work they're employed for.

Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by lwall on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @10:52AM (#23477615)
Perhaps managers who can't see they're on shaky ground making such a joke are liable to be problematic in some other capacity.
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Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by RankingMember on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @11:03AM (#23477803)
A manager with a sense of humor is different from a manager who jokes about ending your employment. Imagine getting pulled over and a cop jokes about arresting you- are you laughing or do you feel unnerved? You were being sarcastic, but unnerving employees by making jokes rooted in your power over others does have the potential to negatively impact company culture and thus the company itself. The power dynamic matters.
Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by klyrs on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @10:59AM (#23477732)
Making jokes about firing subordinates shows a bad sense of humor -- it's not funny, it's making light of a power imbalance at the expense of the subordinate.

It's like when a cop makes jokes about shooting you after pulling you over for expired tabs (happened when I was a teen).

Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by normalnorm on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @10:57AM (#23477702)
It is more or less universally recognized that jokes are only funny if they are punching upwards. Someone in a position of power making jokes about using that power against someone with less power is more akin to bullying.
Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by bzb3 on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @10:59AM (#23477745)
Your manager is not your enemy. Your manager making a joke is not kicking you down, he's trying to breed camaraderie.
Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by tareqak on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @11:26AM (#23478121)
The road to hell is paved with good intentions - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_road_to_hell_is_paved_with...

Most of the Evil in This World Is Done by People with Good Intentions - https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/12/19/intentions/

I would argue that breeding camaraderie requires empathy and understanding with other person as opposed to blindly projecting one’s sense of humor upon another.

Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by toyg on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @11:18AM (#23478024)
This is the mindset that gave Gervais and Merchant plenty of material for The Office. Are you David Brent, by any chance?
Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by normalnorm on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @11:31AM (#23478192)
> Your manager is not your enemy. Your manager making a joke is not kicking you down, he's trying to breed camaraderie.

This is getting strangely personal. If you are joking, well done on the subtlety!

Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by RankingMember on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @11:08AM (#23477873)
Yep, nothing like joking about using the power you and no one under you has to end employment to really punch up the ol' team spirit.
Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by klyrs on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @08:10PM (#23483696)
The manager who thinks that firing you would be funny is your enemy.
Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by DFHippie on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @10:57AM (#23477706)
Yes, they may take other jokes wrong, but this probably isn't the metric you need to optimize as a manager. And it probably isn't a very good proxy for whatever that metric might be. This is to say nothing of worsening that metric by stressing out your employees.
Re:Advice to new managers: don't joke about firing people by unethical_ban on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @10:53AM (#23477632)
"Advice to New Police Officers: Don't Joke About Shooting People"

People in positions of power should not take lightly their ability to ruin peoples' lives with strangers. Or anyone, really, but especially strangers.