Re:“Pain Is the Only School-Teacher”
by WalterBright on Tuesday June 09, 2020 @05:33AM
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That's characterized by the phrase "hitting rock bottom".
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People who "hit rock bottom" do relapse. And when they relapse it all goes down really fast again. Rock bottom does not imply abstinence forever.
When I said "takes more" I meant that long term, possibly forever, work of changing habits, values, social environment to keep not playing.