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Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by oarsinsync on Monday June 08, 2020 @12:21PM (#23457959)
> I’m just waiting for the day when all TVs require a working internet connection

We're not there yet, but we're on our way. My Philips Ambilight TV pops up a warning every few weeks to remind me that I should connect the TV to the network to benefit from all the smart apps it has bundled. Immensely frustrating.

Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by hinkley on Monday June 08, 2020 @02:17PM (#23459148)
With ethernet over HDMI being a thing, I've heard reports of TVs tunneling out through a media box without asking first.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by stragies on Monday June 08, 2020 @03:29PM (#23459876)
That would require 2 Devices supporting Ethernet-over-HDMI, and one of needs to have routing/bridging enabled.

I have -up2now- not seen 1 device, where the combination of HW/SW was capable of offering ethernet to the Device OS.

AFAIK, no (mainstream) PC/Embedded/Mobile graphics chip/firmware/driver combination supports this. Please do indicate a counter-example, if you know of one.

I consider that unlikely to change too, since Ethernet is limited to 100Mbit over HDMI. Gigabit (Wifi) ate that lunch.

Outside of "Device-Collections" from e.g. B&O, that might use that comm-channel to have a "guaranteed communication backend" available, I see no real (commercially) interesting reason for implement it.

Having said that, I'd be very happy, if GFX-card/TV vendors started implementing the optional parts of the HDMI spec, like CEC,ARC, and Ethernet. I'd find use for it.

Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by dsl on Monday June 08, 2020 @03:08PM (#23459703)
Ethernet-over-HDMI is so poorly supported in consumer devices that in HDMI 2.1 they dropped in completely and reused the pins for eARC audio.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by jjoonathan on Monday June 08, 2020 @01:23PM (#23458558)
My TCL bootloops if it doesn't have an internet connection. It also shows ads on its screensaver. Coincidence? Dunno, but it's sure making TCL money and making me miserable.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by robrtsql on Monday June 08, 2020 @07:51PM (#23462110)
Can you factory reset it? I have a TCL Roku TV which I've never connected to the Internet and it shows a pretty standard 'logo bouncing around the edges of the screen' screensaver.
Re:The Impending Doom of Expiring Root CAs and Legacy Clients by jjoonathan on Monday June 08, 2020 @09:49PM (#23462830)
I sure can. I can even select a screensaver other than the "city with ads" one. Then it starts to bootloop until I reset it to defaults and connect it to the internet. Yes, I need to do both, or it starts bootlooping again. Support is all too happy to walk me through the process.