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Re:To Save the Climate, Look to the Oceans by toomuchtodo on Monday June 08, 2020 @11:33AM (#23457402)
It keeps the community healthy though, and you still get to consume high signal content.
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Re:To Save the Climate, Look to the Oceans by NicoJuicy on Monday June 08, 2020 @12:01PM (#23457749)
Downvoted.

Because it's easy to blame other things.

It's hard to find workable solutions and you are not contributing any value. HN is not Reddit.

Re:To Save the Climate, Look to the Oceans by 4636760295 on Monday June 08, 2020 @12:04PM (#23457779)
Yeah, good idea, let's do nothing for another 100 years.
Re:To Save the Climate, Look to the Oceans by jamil7 on Monday June 08, 2020 @11:41AM (#23457506)
So get involved in something. Demonstrate, join a local activist group, volunteer, vote, change your lifestyle drastically. Pointing fingers over the internet isn't helpful.
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Re:To Save the Climate, Look to the Oceans by jamil7 on Monday June 08, 2020 @11:59AM (#23457731)
Changing the dialogue maybe, but thats not what your (now removed) comment did. It targeted a specific group of people and shifted the blame onto them. I've been involved in various climate and environmental related protests, blockades, open source projects and acts of (peaceful) civil disobedience and I've seen people from all age groups and walks of life getting involved. Alienating, blame shifting and generalising helps nobody. Instead point your frustration and energy at the system that they're a product of.
Re:To Save the Climate, Look to the Oceans by seiferteric on Monday June 08, 2020 @11:43AM (#23457547)
"Boomers" are just people born before us. If you or I were born earlier would we have acted better than them? Probably not because people are shaped by their culture and environment. So whats the point of this argument?
Re:To Save the Climate, Look to the Oceans by gonzo41 on Monday June 08, 2020 @12:11PM (#23457845)
I think the angst with "boomers" is due to the fact that today's culture and the environment and modern science points out that we, all of us, should act in a better way to our environment. However a lot of older folk seems to think that can reasonably hold onto the prevailing view that existed when they were born rather than confront reality. Young people today have an eye's open approach to the disasters that are coming and a lot of the responsible people are going skip out helping with the bill. The anger is understandable.
Re:To Save the Climate, Look to the Oceans by seiferteric on Monday June 08, 2020 @12:14PM (#23457876)
Certainly, but the way forward is to come up with convincing arguments and better solutions to the problems at hand. Blaming boomers is not effective. My point is that if you or I were born 30+ years earlier, we would be behaving (statistically) exactly the same way. So the blame game is pointless, in the end people are people.
Re:To Save the Climate, Look to the Oceans by gonzo41 on Monday June 08, 2020 @12:16PM (#23457905)
You're right, people are people. The blame game makes perfect sense. :P
Re:To Save the Climate, Look to the Oceans by 4636760295 on Monday June 08, 2020 @12:17PM (#23457915)
People have been making great arguments for decades, but that hasn't worked. There hasn't been any substantial change. In fact, Trump has been gutting environmental laws, rolling back emissions rules, and castrating agencies like the EPA.

The time has passed to sit idle. Seriously, people need to get mad and start taking real action, because congress is not doing anything about it.

Re:To Save the Climate, Look to the Oceans by austincheney on Monday June 08, 2020 @01:49PM (#23458835)
Real action? What specific climate fixing action would you recommend people take? I suspect eliminating electricity and transportation would have the greatest impact, although that is not realistic.
Re:To Save the Climate, Look to the Oceans by anonymoushn on Tuesday June 09, 2020 @03:29AM (#23464553)
A big way to eliminate transportation is to legalize the construction of housing and the operation of businesses in and near cities, then allow people who commute for an hour or two to move so they don't have to commute. This is impossible, because we (boomers) have decided that it's important for our society for local governments (boomers) and sometimes residents (boomers) to have veto power over housing construction and the ability to delay business openings by years.