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Re:Rubyists, we must do better by Cthulhu_ on Monday June 08, 2020 @07:53AM (#23455724)
How is requesting to change hurtful or problematic names political? The public opinion on what is and is not hurtful changes over time, and you have to stick with the times.

I mean you'll get fired or punched in the face if you use some of the stuff people mentioned flippantly a century ago.

YOU don't think anybody will ever be offended; that's a personal opinion that you hold, but your opinion doesn't apply when SOMEONE ELSE is offended.

I mean for example I'm not offended if people swear in HN, so say "fuck" and "shit" all you want, I don't care. But I'm not alone here, and there will be people who are offended and would prefer it to stay out of HN.

Like how you want politics out of software development.

Anyway, you say you want to keep politics out of software development, but this isn't a political issue, it's a moral issue. It's about what is right and wrong, not what the current political climate is.

Re:Rubyists, we must do better by luckylion on Monday June 08, 2020 @08:03AM (#23455781)
> The public opinion on what is and is not hurtful changes over time, and you have to stick with the times.

If you "stick with the times", don't you essentially commit to do whatever the loudest, most extreme people want? Your average person doesn't care if your library is called Darth Vader, but somebody looking for outrage will declare that they are offended and you must now submit to their will because otherwise you're offensive and they will try to ruin your life.

Giving in to those people is like giving in to the demands of terrorists: do it once and you will have them show up again tomorrow with more demands.

> It's about what is right and wrong, not what the current political climate is.

How is the name of a software library right or wrong in general? I'd follow that argument if the name was "fuck you, John Doe" or something like that. But RuboCop? Really?

Re:Rubyists, we must do better by PeterisP on Monday June 08, 2020 @07:59AM (#23455762)
Are you asserting that "RuboCop" is an inherently immoral name? Are you asserting that it's an inherently hurtful name?

I definitely believe that if there's an objective line between right and wrong, then the name "RuboCop" has not crossed that line.

The name was not chosen as a signal of political support to one side in this conflict. Switching the name would be essentially just a signal of political support to the BLM movement - but IMHO it's not offensive to refuse to participate in this political signaling.

Re:Rubyists, we must do better by seek3r00 on Monday June 08, 2020 @08:07AM (#23455801)
Indeed. I would argue that instead of changing their OSS projects names, people could donate and protest.