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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by rayiner on Sunday June 07, 2020 @08:34PM (#23452401)
I happen to agree: several hundred, or even several thousand more people dying as a result of COVID 19 is a worthwhile trade off for the progress and change these protests are enabling. If that’s your opinion, own it. But that’s a political opinion, not a scientific one. Scientists have no business trying to clothe that political value judgment in the garb of expert analysis.

The problem the public health sector has worked itself into is that it dismissed any attempts to analyze “trade offs” when we were talking about economic trade offs. So now they have to pretend like we’re not talking about trade offs at all. Hence the completely non-sensical premise that protests are okay because police brutality is a public health problem.

Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by caconym_ on Sunday June 07, 2020 @08:45PM (#23452454)
I don't really think this letter is trying to be anything other than an articulation of a value judgment made by people with a certain perspective that gives visibility not just into the effects of COVID-19, but other public health issues that disproportionately affect black people.

I'm also not super convinced that "the public health sector" was never receptive to questions about economic tradeoffs. We have a dysfunctional federal government and the same in many local jurisdictions, but where I live the local public health institutions have been working hand in glove with state and local governments to open as quickly as possible while staying abreast of the disease's spread.

Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by wbl on Monday June 08, 2020 @06:00AM (#23455193)
There is no tradeoff in NZ or Australia. They eliminated the virus. We didn't so will have to continue shutting things down.