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Re:Why Are Police Unions Blocking Reform? by torstenvl on Sunday June 07, 2020 @07:41PM (#23452086)
> "A work stoppage to punish a player for expressing his opinion may seem extreme"

They said, without any hint of awareness of the irony...

Re:Why Are Police Unions Blocking Reform? by klyrs on Sunday June 07, 2020 @07:44PM (#23452112)
Care to spell that out? I'm missing the irony
Re:Why Are Police Unions Blocking Reform? by torstenvl on Sunday June 07, 2020 @07:49PM (#23452135)
CK wasn't protesting on his own time, he was at work, in uniform, and refused to do something.
Re:Why Are Police Unions Blocking Reform? by olliej on Sunday June 07, 2020 @08:11PM (#23452278)
He took the knee, to protest the train wreck of criminal justice. He was still respecting the flag.

He wasn’t stopping the game, he wasn’t delaying anything. He did it at the same time as everyone else.

All he did was a different position to respect the flag, while also protesting the treatment of PoC in America.

If we want to talk about disrespecting the flag then we need to talk about those football ceremonies with the flag dragged horizontally across the field, or flag themed clothing and costumes, or advertising that uses the flag. Because those are explicitly disrespectful, and a violation of the flag code (4USC section 1)

Re:Why Are Police Unions Blocking Reform? by gremlinsinc on Sunday June 07, 2020 @11:30PM (#23453339)
Don't forget worshiping the confederate flag which is to disown everything America stands for.
Re:Why Are Police Unions Blocking Reform? by olliej on Monday June 08, 2020 @01:04AM (#23453723)
oh yeah. The confederate flag is by definition the flag of treason. If you are flying or using the confederate flag then you're literally pro-treason. Well, that and slavery.
Re:Why Are Police Unions Blocking Reform? by generalpf on Sunday June 07, 2020 @07:54PM (#23452173)
Standing for the national anthem isn’t part of his job. Indeed, playing the national anthem at sporting events is a recent tradition.
Re:Why Are Police Unions Blocking Reform? by klyrs on Sunday June 07, 2020 @09:28PM (#23452699)
My dad was a marine and you've got my respect. But Kaepernick's uniform doesn't mean what yours does. He's a civilian entertainer, and kneeling was an exercise of his right to free speech.

The irony I see is that this was the very definition of peaceful protest. When people rally to protest, cops show up in force. When a single dude takes a knee, that's too much for them to bear? Irony, indeed.

This week's reporting is documentation of the abuses that he was protesting. Have you seen it? The police have all the trappings of the military, with none of the discipline. I almost think we'd be better off if y'all were standing by at these protests, because you at least understand and follow rules of engagement.

Politicians and police say that peaceful protest is tolerated, but not for Kaepernick. And not for, unfortunately, thousands of peaceful protesters, medics, journalists, legal observers and, goddammit, those essential workers going about their legal business -- all who were kettled, beaten, shot, and gassed.