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Re:Ideas That Changed My Life by toyg on Sunday June 07, 2020 @04:03PM (#23450301)
> Isn't that conflating practice with thinking?

"Thinking" is the practice of thought.

To be honest, I thought (eh) we were talking about "thinking" as "reasoning" (and mostly in an original sense).

Obviously if you redefine the concept as "having any thought whatsoever", then anything goes. I personally don't consider "reading a fact in a book" or "associating sounds to concepts" as "thinking" in the terms of the upthread conversation, but you clearly do.

I don't think (eh) we can agree on much in this conversation given the premises.

Re:Ideas That Changed My Life by dahart on Sunday June 07, 2020 @04:09PM (#23450355)
> "Thinking" is the practice of thought.

Oh, is that what you meant when you said "my first touch will still be sub-par."?

> I personally don't consider "reading a fact in a book" or "associating sounds to concepts" as "thinking" in the terms of the upthread conversation, but you clearly do.

I don't think you can learn philosophy without learning a language. I don't think you can learn the scientific method without first learning some scientific facts.

Please elaborate, where would you draw the line between facts+language, and "reasoning"?