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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by axguscbklp on Sunday June 07, 2020 @03:42PM (#23450103)
2018 FBI homicide statistics: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

514 black-on-white homicides, 234 white-on-black homicides.

Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by danbolt on Sunday June 07, 2020 @03:51PM (#23450188)
How do you feel about those numbers compared to the intra-racial ones listed in the same table?
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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by n9 on Sunday June 07, 2020 @05:17PM (#23450909)
Pretty typical of everyone that I have (anecdotally) ever met who contends that black violence on whites is the primary issue. They say one thing based on their intuition and when they hear any response that complicates their view they are out to lunch. A lack of curiosity about your own biases is not a great look.

Also worth noting is that the term homicide can only be applied by law enforcement, whose systemic bias against people of color is.. you know, the topic of the day. It does not include many or most of the cases of wrongfully being killed by law enforcement and it certainly doesn't include the illegal killing of people in other countries by our armed forces. I would be very interested in seeing these numbers included.

Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by eganist on Sunday June 07, 2020 @05:34PM (#23451063)
> Pretty typical of everyone that I have (anecdotally) ever met who contends that black violence on whites is the primary issue.

Wait, is this directed to me, or to the comment above me? Because I'm arguing the exact opposite of this, specifically that focusing on and misrepresenting Black-on-White violence takes away from the struggle against oppression endured by the Black community.

It's the OP I'm replying to who's been arguing the Black-on-White violence angle. I'm merely pointing out that they're using a strawman to defend it and that I have no intention of staying engaged when there are a broad array of fallacies being employed one after another.

You and I are on the same page.

Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by n9 on Sunday June 07, 2020 @05:56PM (#23451233)
sigh. i see that now. mea culpa.
Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by fzeroracer on Sunday June 07, 2020 @03:55PM (#23450227)
This really only works if you consider said statistics to be reported in good faith. Black Americans tend to be disproportionately targeted by law enforcement and disproportionately punished. For example, black Americans are around four times as likely to be charged for Marijuana offenses compared to white people despite using marijuana at equal rates.

White-on-black crimes I would argue are far less likely to be reported, especially apparent by the bias that the police employ against black people.

Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by kortilla on Sunday June 07, 2020 @05:20PM (#23450935)
We’re talking about murders here. It’s pretty hard to hide that a person no longer exists.
Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by achenatx on Sunday June 07, 2020 @05:47PM (#23451156)
This people keep pointing to black incarceration rates as a symptom of a racist judicial system. When debating I focus on murder victims as that has nothing to do with the racist judicial system.

Still there is a problem with government tyranny and it doesnt matter if it is just a handful of people. Being killed by a thug vs being killed by the govt really are two different things even if you are just as dead either way.

Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by fzeroracer on Sunday June 07, 2020 @06:02PM (#23451277)
It's pretty easy to lie about it and say you were 'afraid for your life' or 'he charged at me' though, as we've seen in multiple high-profile murders of black people. It's almost like that's what kicked off this entire protest.

If you're not charged for murder, then it doesn't get reported.