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Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by sametmax on Sunday June 07, 2020 @01:41PM (#23449083)
Why does everything has to be a war with the US?
Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by klyrs on Sunday June 07, 2020 @02:11PM (#23449305)
I know, let's end that abominable feature of our culture. I call it... the war on war.

More seriously... "war" seems to be a byword for "unlimited and opaque budget" so it's attractive to all political stripes; it's also a byword for "we're actually taking this seriously" which is attractive to a large segment of the population.

Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by owenversteeg on Sunday June 07, 2020 @02:14PM (#23449332)
Soon, a series of organizations fighting war will pop up creating the war-on-war industrial complex, necessitating the war on war on war.

It's war all the way down.

Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by mleonhard on Monday June 08, 2020 @12:15AM (#23453504)
One possible explanation is that the author is a shill for Israel. He served in Israel's military. He has some publications with Israelis, such as "The Glory of the Holy Land."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_D._Kaplan#Early_life_an...

Israel benefits heavily from US militarization and US belligerence toward non-allies.

Israel invests a lot of money on lobbying US politicians and on PR to influence the US public. I'm not sure how much they spend. Israel receives $3B in military aid from US every year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs...

Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by gumby on Sunday June 07, 2020 @04:55PM (#23450724)
I strongly agree. Whether you think China is butterflies and kittens (I do not) or unspeakably evil (I also do not) it seems like a so-called “war footing” is going to distort priorities and thus be less likely to achieve its goals than simply pushing back wherever the national interest (whatever that might be) Might require it.

Even with its current turmoil, the US is a far more resilient society and is more likely to prosper (and that is what prevailing or “victory” should mean) than China in its current configuration.

Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by dkural on Sunday June 07, 2020 @04:09PM (#23450349)
It's not. US tried to stay out of both World Wars, and was very cooperative with Stalin at the end of WWII. It was dragged into Vietnam by the French. North Korea attacked first. The wars in the Middle East after 9/11, you're right though.
Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by gumby on Sunday June 07, 2020 @05:04PM (#23450803)
Also “war on drugs” “war on poverty”...absurdism.

The US stayed legally out of the war in Europe due yes to a strong isolationist movement but also a strong pro-german movement. Without committing troops, Roosevelt tacitly involved the US in the European war (enough deniability that congress would not interfere) and specifically mounted a petroleum embargo in Japan leading to the Japanese decision to bomb Pearl Harbor (not at all blaming the victim — USA — for Japan’s decision). I don’t think you can say though that the us tried to stay out.

“Very cooperative with Stalin at the end of WWII” is hardly borne out by the historical record. The US invaded the USSR during its revolution, and long before Yalta both countries were jockeying for post-war position once it became clear that victory over Germany was inevitable.

The French asked for help yes but it was no treaty matter (not a NATO issue): the US willingly intervened in both Korea and Viet Nam because of communists being on the other side.

Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by 0x8BADF00D on Sunday June 07, 2020 @02:01PM (#23449217)
It so happens that whenever a country amasses more wealth than the US, they are maligned and considered evil. It happened in the 80s with Japan, and it is now happening with China. Except this time, the United States is broke. The US will Balkanize before anything happens to China.
Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by s_y_n_t_a_x on Sunday June 07, 2020 @02:23PM (#23449401)
It's probably the concentration camps, organ harvesting, and various other human rights violations, rather than the accumulation of wealth.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/10/asia/xinjiang-china-reeducati...

https://nypost.com/2019/06/01/chinese-dissidents-are-being-e...

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/09/04/7570898...

Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by sametmax on Sunday June 07, 2020 @02:37PM (#23449518)
There are many countries that do such things, but the US selectively chose who are the ennemy du jour, and most are not tagged as such. In fact, some of them are friends with the US.

What's more, I recall the US in the last 2 decades:

- went to a war by lying about WMD and against the entire world (at least the world represented by the UN) will, killing thousands

- deployed mass surveillance of its own people, introduced bypasses to Habeas corpus and legalized torture using the Patriot Act

- elected a man that is at the center of so many Clinton-size scandals in a row it became the new normal

Now, I don't even begin to claim I have a superior country, mine has done many terrible things.

But let's not pretend the US (or any other superpower's) behavior has anything to do with morality. It's either naive or dishonest.

However, labelling everything with "war" is, indeed, a very American thing to do.

Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by s_y_n_t_a_x on Sunday June 07, 2020 @02:56PM (#23449670)
Whataboutism, I simply stated ongoing actions by the CCP that probably influence people to view them as evil.

It's up for people to decide what they view as acceptable, the history of every country is for the most part transparent these days.

Laundry listing things other countries do (I disagree they come close to the atrocities committed by the CCP) is not a great defense.

I listed CURRENT atrocities being committed by the CCP right now, you picked from our entire history that we as Americans have already expressed outrage (WMD's, etc)

I even left out surveillance because all countries seem to be spying on their citizens, though the CCP goes a lot further with no accountability because it's a dictatorship.

Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by 0x8BADF00D on Sunday June 07, 2020 @02:39PM (#23449526)
No country is perfect, especially the United States. How many war crimes have been committed in the last 50 years? China is not the enemy. We could learn a lot of positive things from them.
Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by sametmax on Sunday June 07, 2020 @02:45PM (#23449564)
China is in competition with a lot of countries, and in a race for power.

And it is a bloody dictature.

That's not the point. The point is: why does the US has to formulate systematically its antagonist positions as a War?

Given they have the biggest army in the world, this is the best way to have the most violent resolution of this antagonism.

Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by 0x8BADF00D on Sunday June 07, 2020 @06:18PM (#23451421)
That is due to the military industrial complex, which incentivizes the use of the American war machine.
Re:A New Cold War Has Begun (2019) by SpicyLemonZest on Sunday June 07, 2020 @02:05PM (#23449251)
Did it happen in the 80s? There was certainly anti-Japanese sentiment, I've seen the people smashing up Toyotas, but as far as I can tell nobody seriously proposed that Japan was a comparable threat to the Soviet Union.