Re:Helium shortage has ended, at least for now
by autodidactic on Saturday June 06, 2020 @01:35AM
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Do people not realize that you can extract helium in the air? Granted current methods are somewhat inefficient, it's totally possible to do with today's technology.
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Re:Helium shortage has ended, at least for now
by TwoBit on Saturday June 06, 2020 @01:52AM
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I'm totally ignorant, but I thought helium atoms rose to the top of the atmosphere any flew away.
Re:Helium shortage has ended, at least for now
by Greek0 on Saturday June 06, 2020 @05:10AM
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The atmosphere is not stratified into layers of different gasses. All gasses are mixed throughout the atmosphere, so you also find enough Helium at the bottom where we live. Indeed, all gasses in the atmosphere get less dense with increasing height, so helium has the highest pressure/density at the ground. [1]
At the same time, lighter gasses have vertical distributions that reach higher up into space, and some helium does get lost as it "boils off" from earth over time.
Re:Helium shortage has ended, at least for now
by booi on Saturday June 06, 2020 @02:04AM
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no you're right, it's not economically feasible to "extract" helium from air and it does rise.
Re:Helium shortage has ended, at least for now
by VBprogrammer on Saturday June 06, 2020 @04:08AM
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According to a quick Google, it's in the air at a concentration of 5ppm. For loose comparison sake, this is like pumping out an Olympic sized swimming pool to extract 10 litres of the good stuff. You certainly won't be doing that to fill children's balloons.
Re:Helium shortage has ended, at least for now
by coronadisaster on Saturday June 06, 2020 @09:18AM
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> this is like pumping out an Olympic sized swimming pool to extract 10 litres of the good stuff
Sounds line gold mining... I'm sure they'd do it if needed for scientific purposes... or if they discover some health benefits to heliumtalk
Re:Helium shortage has ended, at least for now
by autodidactic on Saturday June 06, 2020 @12:47PM
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Yeah this is completely misleading. How the fuck do you they think they got neon? The only way you can get it is from from the atmosphere. Helium occurs in similar concentrations and maintains the same level overtime due the radioactive decay. Actually it's probably increased due to natural gas extraction. https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1984GeCoA..48.1759O/abstra...
Re:Helium shortage has ended, at least for now
by gliese1337 on Saturday June 06, 2020 @10:49AM
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Note that the price of gold is much higher than the price of helium.
If helium prices rise high enough, then yes, we will extract it from the atmosphere. And scientists will be sad because the they won't be able to afford as much of it anymore.
Re:Helium shortage has ended, at least for now
by coronadisaster on Saturday June 06, 2020 @11:52AM
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It might be a lot cheaper to filter one cubic meter of air then it is one cubic meter of dirt... But either way, one day it could happen