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Re:Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap by fiddlerwoaroof on Friday June 05, 2020 @06:08PM (#23434595)
Debian testing is basically my distro of choice: if sid is the rolling release, and stable is the LTS version, testing is roughly equivalent to non-LTS Ubuntu: the packages have been tested so you don’t usually get breakage, but they aren’t stale.
Re:Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap by ckcheng on Friday June 05, 2020 @06:49PM (#23434886)
The packages are somewhat tested, but "you are participating in the development of Debian when you are tracking testing or unstable" [1]. My feeling is Debian testing is a little less stable than non-LTS Ubuntu.

See, I'd like to use LXDE, and right now I use Lubuntu. I'm interested in switching to Debian, but then I read someone say Debian testing is "more stable than the name would suggest, as long as you follow a few reasonable best-practices" [2]. Then I look at these best practices [3] and I'm like, I don't really have time for all that...

But maybe that person is just overly cautious. So I look at Debian's page [1] for best practices and it wants me to use btrfs or LVM snapshots in case an update puts the system into an unrecoverable position. I... don't think I have time for that.

Maybe I can use Debian stable and just get software not available in Debian stable via... snap [4]. Ok, they also list Flatpak and docker, but this is getting frustrating... Is that really the best way to go about this? Because other than snap auto-updating on my machines behind my back, Lubuntu's been working great up to now.

So basically, is there a Ubuntu / Lubuntu that just doesn't have snap auto-updates? If anyone knows, I'd really appreciate it!

[1]: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#What_are_some_best_pr... [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23038222 [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23044878 [4]: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Snap

Re:Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap by rumanator on Friday June 05, 2020 @08:06PM (#23435424)
> My feeling is Debian testing is a little less stable than non-LTS Ubuntu.

At least a few years ago, Ubuntu's LTS releases were derived from Debian Testing, while Ubuntu's standard releases were derived from Debian Unstable.

Re:Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap by ckcheng on Friday June 05, 2020 @10:39PM (#23436343)
Oh, didn't know that. That gives me a better sense of "how stable" each is. Thanks!
Re:Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap by fiddlerwoaroof on Friday June 05, 2020 @06:57PM (#23434941)
I’ve run Debian testing for like 10 years now, and I’ve never been hesitant to apt-get dist-upgrade.
Re:Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap by ckcheng on Friday June 05, 2020 @10:42PM (#23436357)
Good to know. I felt that way about Ubuntu / Lubuntu for that time too, until now. This gives me some confidence about Debian to put some time into trying it out. Thanks!
Re:Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap by RMPR on Monday June 15, 2020 @08:38AM (#23526650)
You can try Fedora, switched from Ubuntu 16.04, never looked back