Re:The Unmarked Federal Agents Occupying Washington, D.C
by cperciva on Friday June 05, 2020 @12:38PM
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There's a big difference between undercover police officers and officers who are overtly police but refuse to identify themselves.
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Re:The Unmarked Federal Agents Occupying Washington, D.C
by bitwize on Friday June 05, 2020 @01:23PM
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The famous "We don't need no stinking badges" line was spoken by a character who led a band of Mexican bandits posing as Federales.
When bandits become indistinguishable from cops, cops become indistinguishable from bandits.
Re:The Unmarked Federal Agents Occupying Washington, D.C
by csours on Friday June 05, 2020 @01:31PM
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Investigator vs Enforcer.
Enforcers should should be clearly identifiable.
Re:The Unmarked Federal Agents Occupying Washington, D.C
by Gibbon1 on Friday June 05, 2020 @02:07PM
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That's my thought soldiers not in uniform have no legal protection under the rules of war. They can just be summarily shot for all the law cares.
Re:The Unmarked Federal Agents Occupying Washington, D.C
by jki275 on Saturday June 06, 2020 @09:25AM
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That’s absolutely untrue. Unlawful combatants have less rights under the law of war, but no one is allowed to summarily execute them.
Re:The Unmarked Federal Agents Occupying Washington, D.C
by creaghpatr on Friday June 05, 2020 @12:46PM
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Sure, and they both fall into this category:
>Police who refuse to identify themselves and carry no markings used against an administration's political opponents
Re:The Unmarked Federal Agents Occupying Washington, D.C
by newacct583 on Friday June 05, 2020 @01:37PM
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That's not the only distinction that matters though. Investigators are assigned to specific crimes. Their job is gathering evidence, not enforcing laws.
The point to needing to identify police is that without that rule and the accountability that comes with it the "police" become just another gang on the streets. None of that is relevant to investigatory law enforcement.
Obviously both kinds of anonymity can be abused, but only one has an easy and obvious solution.
Seriously: no one sane thinks that riot cops should be operating in street clothes and refusing to identify themselves. This whole subthread is a ridiculous digression.