Re:Police are out of control. It’s time to hit them where it...
by codeddesign on Friday June 05, 2020 @11:47AM
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Just so we all have the facts straight - police militarization was also happening during Obama (not sure about bush or clinton). This isn’t new. So much spare military equipment from Iraq war with no where to go.
Re:Police are out of control. It’s time to hit them where it...
by ideophobia on Friday June 05, 2020 @11:58AM
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Yea 100% true, I didn't think I suggested otherwise but appreciate the clarification. I only mentioned Trump because he is 1. the current president, and 2. seems to support militarization of police. To me this puts him in an ideal spot to directly rebuke the desired impacts of defunding since the departments could just get their money from UASI (Urban Area Security Initiative) DHS grants, that I'm assuming Trump could get funded with at least some ease.
Re:Police are out of control. It’s time to hit them where it...
by codeddesign on Friday June 05, 2020 @02:06PM
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Question: Wouldn’t funding be congress rather than a president?
In regards to funding, every president seems to have been for it. Obama may not have been verbal about it, but certainly “funded” it:
My second concern is that pay for police is often considered not great. Hitting the city/county budget will likely impact salaries, pay increases, health care benefits, vehicle maintenance, and many other areas. Sadly the fastest thing to get cut from municipal agencies is often training, so I'm skeptical we can "defund" the police while simultaneously adding additional training requirements around mental health, de-escalation, etc.
I'm not inherently against the defund argument, particularly when it involves shifting those funds toward more community services that would reduce crime and poverty anyways. It just seems like the problem has less to do with the amount of money police departments actually have and more to do with a lack of oversight on how they're spending it.