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Re:Why Is the NYPD So Powerful? by marcinzm on Thursday June 04, 2020 @08:23PM (#23423671)
Fact is, the majority of people are generally happy with their life, attacking those people and their life just makes them hate you and support whomever is trying to stop you. I don't see why that is unreasonable or unexpected.
Re:Why Is the NYPD So Powerful? by av_engr on Thursday June 04, 2020 @11:27PM (#23424804)
Agree on this. Ive seen social media post portraits the message in the lines of "if you don't support us, then you are part of them". I believe this is a bad tactics to gain support in a movement.

Excluding people will only lose support, instead they should've pushed for more social media post on explaining in an objective way why police brutality and racism exist, and how it will impact us (not only African American but POC as well as innocent civilians).

Re:Why Is the NYPD So Powerful? by demadog on Thursday June 04, 2020 @11:50PM (#23424915)
Yea my first thought is the absolutist slogans and chants can turn away those in the middle. I’d rather see facts and have smart people plan and debate. On the other token, as in politics, it’s the one liners that get spread far and wide and affect more people (positive or negatively). Obama said it best that the protests essentially make the issues front and center and in everyone’s mind, but the rubber hits the road only when electing local officials that can make permanent changes.
Re:Why Is the NYPD So Powerful? by jddj on Friday June 05, 2020 @05:11AM (#23426507)
I agree with your second point. American federal politicians and political organizations seem to care less and less about the middle.

Change happens at the edges, and sadly people deal more and more in extremes + absolutes. There's not much room for nuance.

Re:Why Is the NYPD So Powerful? by marcinzm on Friday June 05, 2020 @12:19AM (#23425040)
>I believe this is a bad tactics to gain support in a movement.

That depends on the size of the movement. "Support us or lose all your friends" is a valid tactic that has been successfully used since long before written history. Requiring members to perform an action (unfriend people, post harsh messages, etc.) also induces deeper commitment (psychologically and materially) then merely someone saying they support a movement.

Re:Why Is the NYPD So Powerful? by bakuninsbart on Thursday June 04, 2020 @11:55PM (#23424942)
If you are happy in a country built on the sweat and blood of enslaved people, and then simply not willing to listen to their suffering, you are an aweful human being.
Re:Why Is the NYPD So Powerful? by marcinzm on Friday June 05, 2020 @12:10AM (#23424994)
I'd appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth or throw insults at me.

I'm merely pointing out that violent rioters will elicit negative responses from people who don't want society to burn down and those who stop said rioters will elicit positive responses.

Re:Why Is the NYPD So Powerful? by david38 on Monday June 08, 2020 @10:18AM (#23456669)
There is no faster to alienate people and get yourself off with smug superiority than to comment like this.

We can go down the path of how much has been built by slaves, what you mean by enslaved, and how I am somehow responsible for that, especially as an immigrant from a country torn apart by American imperialism.

You are not the judge of what is an aweful human being, seriously, you’re just not that free of sin or amazing.

In your smugness you no doubt increase the wealth of other such “aweful human beings” by working for them, paying them for goods, paying taxes, etc.

This attitude is tiring and counter productive.

Re:Why Is the NYPD So Powerful? by nec4b on Friday June 05, 2020 @03:06AM (#23425839)
TIL that there are still enslaved people who suffer in your country.