Most people believe in "innocent until proven guilty" and China has presented exactly zero evidence.

Both men are being held in solitary without access to lawyers. Nor have they faced any actual charges in court. It's been about 15 months.

They are political prisoners.

>I thought the jailed Canadians were spies...are you sure they are innocent?

China claimed they were spies, 'coincidentally' after Canada detained the Huwaei executive. I'd like to see some evidence of that.