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Re:Postmodernism and Its Impact (2017) by m0zg on Thursday June 04, 2020 @07:09AM (#23415059)
> putting food on the table or providing for a family, to be their life's calling

Sure it's not anyone's "life's calling". What it is is a _baseline requirement_ without fulfilling which you can't really pursue higher calling of any kind in a meaningful way.

Re:Postmodernism and Its Impact (2017) by alexashka on Thursday June 04, 2020 @07:44AM (#23415332)
There is no baseline requirement.

It is only the worker ants that can't comprehend that there can be other ways to meaningfully live this life.

Have you not heard of monks? Have you not heard of travelling musicians? Maybe not, maybe you don't get it, but I can assure you, a higher calling has nothing to do with resources and many of those who do find meaning in working, will be happy to break bread with a travelling monk or hear a musician's tune and tale of adventure.

It's the many colors of the rainbow that make it beautiful. How awful it'd be if we all wanted to work, so that our children could work, so that their children could work, until we've populated this planet and sucked it dry, with our boring diligence.

Re:Postmodernism and Its Impact (2017) by hoseja on Thursday June 04, 2020 @09:27AM (#23416262)
There is a prevailing sentiment on this site that I can only, for the lack of knowledge of a better term, call American evangelical-puritan. It's, in it's entirety only about getting money, getting more money and getting more efficient at getting more money. The holders of this sentiment seem to find it offensive to find pleasure in anything else than being the best worker ant this quarter they can possibly be. It's rather creepy to witness.
Re:Postmodernism and Its Impact (2017) by m0zg on Thursday June 04, 2020 @04:00PM (#23421077)
I do find pleasure in not starving and having a roof over my head, that much is true. The rest of your post is so detached from reality I won't comment on it.
Re:Postmodernism and Its Impact (2017) by hoseja on Friday June 05, 2020 @02:19AM (#23425593)
I really don't understand. Are you, on a daily basis, in a serious threat of losing your job, becoming homeless and immediately dying with all your family?
Re:Postmodernism and Its Impact (2017) by adwn on Thursday June 04, 2020 @06:50AM (#23414937)
> It may shock you, but some people don't see putting food on the table [...] to be their life's calling.

It may shock you, but if you don't put food on your table, you're going to starve and die. Sure, you might rely on the charity of others to provide for you. But if you're mentally and physically able to contribute and be productive, but choose not to, then you're a parasite.

I won't comment on the rest of your post, since it's full of personal attacks, insults, and pure speculation about the another poster's character and motivations. Ironically, the opinions you articulate in your post have a somewhat postmodernist vibe to them.

Re:Postmodernism and Its Impact (2017) by alexashka on Thursday June 04, 2020 @07:07AM (#23415042)
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

― Socrates

One day, fewer people will freely have children and maybe then this multi-thousand year cycle of brilliant parents complaining about their children's inadequacies will cease.

Re:Postmodernism and Its Impact (2017) by froasty on Thursday June 04, 2020 @01:42PM (#23419509)
The quote isn't real. It's from a Cambridge dissertation in 1907 attributing these attitudes to the ancients. With that said, let's assume that Socrates did say something like this. What exactly happened to Athenian democracy in the generations after the death of Socrates?

"Athens, 404 BC. The Democratic city-state has been ravaged by a long and bloody war with neighbouring Sparta. The search for scapegoats begins and Athens, liberty's beacon in the ancient world, turns its sword on its own way of life. Civil war and much bloodshed ensue. Defining moments of Greek history, culture, politics, religion and identity are debated ferociously in Athenian board rooms, back streets and battlefields. By 323 BC, less than 100 years later, Athens and the rest of Greece, not to mention a large part of the known world, has come under the control of an absolute monarch, a master of self-publicity and a model for despots for millennia to come: 'megas alexandros', Alexander the Great."

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://phys.org/news/2009-10-athenians-history.html

Re:Postmodernism and Its Impact (2017) by adwn on Thursday June 04, 2020 @07:14AM (#23415103)
Are you disputing that some children grow up to be lazier and less disciplined than their parents? No? Then how is that quote relevant? m0zg complained about their very own child, not about children in general.
Re:Postmodernism and Its Impact (2017) by zozbot234 on Thursday June 04, 2020 @07:09AM (#23415061)
Wait, now I'm confused. I thought it was Abraham Lincoln that said this, not Socrates.