Re:Anders Tegnell defends Sweden's virus approach
by timwaagh on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @11:05PM
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Lies greater lies and statistics... Belgium counts people who die in nursing homes as covid 19 deaths. They say Belgiums figure would be twice as small if they counted the way others did. Removing that anomaly the only countries higher are Spain, Italy and UK. The first two were hit very hard very early and the last had similar issues as Sweden, reacting very late.
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Re:Anders Tegnell defends Sweden's virus approach
by oxymoron on Thursday June 04, 2020 @03:06AM
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So does Sweden. The public health agency also reports weekly on excess deaths. About 80% of excess deaths are captured in the official COVID-19 statistics.
Re:Anders Tegnell defends Sweden's virus approach
by specialist on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @11:14PM
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Yup. All discussions should also include excess deaths.
Re:Anders Tegnell defends Sweden's virus approach
by tyldum on Thursday June 04, 2020 @01:39AM
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The thing is, at least in Norway, less people than normal have died since COVID-19... So there is no excess.
Re:Anders Tegnell defends Sweden's virus approach
by specialist on Thursday June 04, 2020 @09:27AM
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Then they would report negative excess deaths. That's important information.
Re:Anders Tegnell defends Sweden's virus approach
by nfc on Thursday June 04, 2020 @01:33AM
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This is the only source I've found to easily compare those https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
Re:Anders Tegnell defends Sweden's virus approach
by timc3 on Thursday June 04, 2020 @01:53AM
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I’ve been wondering if you take population density into account where that would put the figures as UK has much higher population density than Sweden
Re:Anders Tegnell defends Sweden's virus approach
by dep_b on Friday June 05, 2020 @05:25AM
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I can't imagine the Belgians being that much more inefficient than the Dutch. I always felt because of the lack of testing in The Netherlands the numbers are probably a bit higher. Until the 1st of June testing was extremely limited even for people that had all of the symptoms.
Re:Anders Tegnell defends Sweden's virus approach
by kalleboo on Thursday June 04, 2020 @01:28AM
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Sweden has also been very good at counting deaths, there was a New York Times report that compared excess deaths and Sweden was the only region where reported COVID-19 deaths actually outnumbered excess deaths
Re:Anders Tegnell defends Sweden's virus approach
by kgwgk on Thursday June 04, 2020 @02:52AM
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The "negative excess" was due to reporting lags, repeating the NYT analysis with up-to-date data for that period there are actually "unexplained" deaths. But it actually seems they make a better job at counting than some other European countries (maybe not as good as Belgium, I don't know).