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Re:Is a trillion dollars’ worth of programming lying on the ... by monksy on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @07:52PM (#23410572)
It must be said that there has been a counter-culture that has been militant in trying to get rid of this. They're enforcing speach codes via code of conducts. (I.e. look at some of the recent examples including Linus Torvald (and the number of people who piled on), donglegate guys, etc)
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Re:Is a trillion dollars’ worth of programming lying on the ... by bigiain on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @08:50PM (#23411036)
To be fair, Linus has admitted to and shown himself capable of being an asshole, and the donglegate guys are people I would not want working with my sister.

You can be cynical and sarcastic without being personally abusive or a sexist troglodyte.

The "militant counter culture" you speak of definitely does exist. But codes of conduct didn't start appearing out of thin air, they exist because they need to exist. Anyone who doesn't recognise that is almost certainly coming from a place of oblivious privilege. (Hell, I admit to being obliviously privileged a lot of the time, and _I_ can see the very real need for codes of conduct to exist so that assholes and troglodytes can't continue saying "It's a joke, calm down", or "I'm just being blunt, you can't handle the truth" or all the other gaslighting bullshit they so often get away with...)

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Re:Is a trillion dollars’ worth of programming lying on the ... by monksy on Thursday June 04, 2020 @06:31PM (#23422773)
Your sister can't handle nsfw language? I don't think that should be endorsed in the work place. (That was at a conference function between 2 people).

They exist because projects have been bullied into doing that. On top of that the conditions were pushed in. Do you really need to have a thing to say "don't deadname"?

Expectations of conduct have, and continued to, existe(d) before that and they were enforced. The only thing this does is to try to give people who don't like how a group is run room to bully the people running it.

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