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Re:Thoughts on cameras in the age of excellent cell phone ph... by dr_zoidberg on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @04:32PM (#23408301)
And the amount of light that enters the sensor through the lens is insanely different. A couple of years ago I moved from a Canon G16 with a f/1.8-2.8 6.1-30.5mm (28-140mm FF eq) lens to a Olympus OM-D EM-10 with its pancake f/3.5-5.6 14-42mm (28-84mm FF eq) lens.

Long story short, the pancake gets almost 3 times as much light as the canon integrated lens, despite the higher f number, because of the areas and sizes involved on both. And if I had gone for an APS-C for FF camera, we'd be talking in the order of 5 to 10x more light (hence, better low light images, or the ability to use shorter exposures for the same results).

Phones f/1.8 cameras are great -- comparing to other phones. If you compare them to a camera (almost any camera), they're in trouble.

Re:Thoughts on cameras in the age of excellent cell phone ph... by AuryGlenz on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @04:56PM (#23408626)
Even different lenses with the same aperture on the same camera can have decently different t-stops.
Re:Thoughts on cameras in the age of excellent cell phone ph... by dr_zoidberg on Thursday June 04, 2020 @06:05AM (#23414673)
Yes, because the f number is a ratio between the effective aperture vs the length of the lens. A long lens with larger f number can focus more light into the sensor than a shorter one with a smaller number, say f/4.0 400mm against a f/2.0 50mm.