Re:Tor Browser 9.5
by staycoolboy on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @02:17PM
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Do you know if GDPR prevents EU countries from obtaining IP logs for Amazon zones located there? I was hoping I could spin up an EC2 VPN in Europe and feel more secure that my IP logs can't be obtained by the US gov't. I use RunBox for email in Norway, which has the strictest privacy laws, but there is no AWS zone there. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Re:Tor Browser 9.5
by justinclift on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @04:55PM
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The US CLOUD Act was designed specifically to enable US gov agencies to access that information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
So, don't use EC2 or stuff hosted by other US companies for things to you want to keep private from the US gov.
Also note the US gov shares intelligence with other countries, as mentioned by a sibling post.
Maybe through the UKUSA agreement or similar.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement
> Do you know if GDPR prevents EU countries from obtaining IP logs for Amazon zones located there?
GDPR has specific exemptions for law enforcement and national security. Governments are allowed to get the data by claiming it's for national security. Some EU countries may have better protections than others.
To give better advice I guess people would want to know what your risk model is. Who do you think is after your data? What do you want to protect?
Re:Tor Browser 9.5
by staycoolboy on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @05:23PM
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> risk model is
Mostly curiosity: what is the highest degree I can obscure my web use and meta data with off-the-shelf technologies?
Tor works pretty much like this:
You -> Relay 1 -> Relay 2 -> Relay 3 -> The website
Each arrow is an encrypted connection. The content of the exchange on a single arrow is the address of the next hop and the query of the next hop. Thanks to this:
- Relay 1 only knows you're going through Relay 2
- Relay 2 doesn't know who's asking (you) but knows it passed through Relay 1 and is going through Relay 3
- Relay 3 doesn't know who's asking (you) and where you entered, but knows it's going to the website
The nodes in the middle know everything that goes through them, but don't have the big picture.
The entry IP address is the IP address of Relay 1. Your computer must know an address to connect to, and that address is distributed in listings by the Tor Project. Since this listing is public, it also makes it easier for censors to censor, or at least detect who's interested in connecting through Tor