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Re:Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first ... by nvarsj on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @09:20AM (#23390681)
It's simply not true. Install Ubuntu or Fedora, run Gnome 3 and everything "just works". You can't use Arch as an example here - it is intentionally very basic, and takes a lot of effort to learn as you do almost everything from scratch. While many people appreciate that level of control, it is unnecessary if you're just trying to get work done.
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Re:Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first ... by rayiner on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @12:35PM (#23392952)
I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 on a built-for-it new Intel-based machine. The amount of "just works" is surprisingly good. But when it goes downhill, it goes downhill steeply. Took me a day to figure out why it wasn't connecting to my Exchange server (TLS 1.3). No screen sharing on Wayland. Etc.
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Re:Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first ... by cameronbrown on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @07:04PM (#23397577)
I'm not using Arch as the baseline - just saying that I'm familiar with Linux.
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Re:Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first ... by grandinj on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @11:33AM (#23392123)
Not with the ongoing Wayland, Systemd, Pipewire, etc, rewrite-from-scratch work.

e.g. I don't have working VNC server at all on latest Fedora, with either X11 or Wayland, and no sign of it being fixed anytime soon.

And that is just one of many irritations with desktop linux, that simply don't occur on Windows, mostly because of MS superior QA

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Re:Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first ... by nvarsj on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @06:21PM (#23397103)
> that simply don't occur on Windows, mostly because of MS superior QA

You're comparing an OS that hasn't had a major release in almost 5 years to a bleeding edge Linux distribution. Install an older LTS version of Ubuntu or Debian and things will be quite stable.

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Re:Seven years later, I bought a new MacBook. For the first ... by grandinj on Friday June 05, 2020 @11:41AM (#23429794)
Actually, no, I havent had an out-of-the-box working VNC for more than 5 years now, through various Ubuntu LTS releases and now Fedora.

Every single one of them has had various annoying bugs that would not have survived decent QA.

But your point is partially correct - at least the LTS releases had workarounds for the problems, whereas with Fedora I am SOL

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