There are in fact a disproportionate number of white supremacists in Portland; Oregon itself was founded as a whites-only state, and it was illegal for black people to live there until 1926. The state's constitution on admission to the Union carried a black-exclusion clause.

Portland itself outlawed black residents in the 1840s and that law stood for many decades. It's only very recently that Portland has developed the reputation for having a liberal populace; as recently as the 1990s it was essentially the white supremacy capital of the west coast.

Looks like rioters to me. There's certainly not enough evidence in that video to prove any sort of group/political affiliation.

Maybe. Why don't you point out exactly what it is in that video that makes you confident enough to label them as "Antifa." I don't see anything that leads me to believe they're anything more than dumb teenagers in the middle of a riot.

Perhaps the other comments are referring to the anarchist symbol that appears a couple of times.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=anarchist+symbol&iax=images...

The anarchist symbol has been used by tons of groups, both left and right, throughout history. You can find it almost anywhere that has a substantial amount of graffiti and I'd bet more often than not it's just done by kids/teens that have no significant group or political affiliation. The video doesn't even show who sprayed it and basically everyone looks like your average teen. Labelling this as "Antifa" because someone spray painted an anarchist symbol and someone has green hair is a bit of a stretch.

What group, other than anarchists, uses that symbol in 2020?

It probably was sprayed by teenagers, but by spraying it, they're indicating their political affiliation.

In addition to what sdkjfhskjfh says, Antifa is not exclusively (or even primarily) anarchists. I've met quite a number of people who participate in Antifa counter-protests who are not anarchists at all.

It's like "libertarian" or "feminist". It's a label you can use to describe a stance or general association with an idea, but not much more.

Being "anti-fascist" can mean a lot of things to a lot of people, but using the "antifa" label makes it sound scary or organized. It reminds me of media outlets talking about message board trolls and disruptors as "the shadowy group known as Anonymous".

It is definitely not clear. You are correct.

If not for C19 the masks would be strong evidence.

But green/long hair and a female voice acting like a leader, white and hoodies means you'd go with Antifa.

I'd cross reference it with other protests. I think you get a hit if you really cared, they look like they are active.

(Antifa are dumb teenagers, a bit like 4Chan, Anonymous, or even ISIS, the word is lose in it's meaning when it's a distributed organisation)

> But green/long hair and a female voice acting like a leader, white and hoodies means you'd go with Antifa.

Why? National Action, NS113, and Scottish Dawn, (UK far right terrorist organisations) all had female membership and leadership.

They wouldn't also have long or green hair.

But to your specific point were the females also foot soldiers? Not, do you know of an example, but was it somewhat common?

This seems to be a more left wing thing.

> They wouldn't also have long or green hair.

What a weird thing to say. Yes, some of them had long hair; some of them had dyed hair.

> But to your specific point were the females also foot soldiers? Not, do you know of an example, but was it somewhat common?

It was a known tactic of National Action to recruit as many women as they could, because those women would then go on to recruit a lot of men.

They had enough women members to run a "Miss Hitler" beauty pageant.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-woman-named-m...

One of the winners went on to become part of the National Action leadership: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/national-action-...

> green/long hair and a female voice acting like a leader, white and hoodies means you'd go with Antifa

IDK, your description could just as well be feminists, mermaids, gorgons, sirens, etc., infact it seems to go as far as to just be saying "any white person protesting with BLM is an Antifa".