When you have a disease killing more people than malaria despite the massive lockdowns, there is no legitimate way to have a conversation.

And in case you think 'yeah but the lock downs don't work' look at Vietnam: they are the first country to have local transmission outside China, and they started anti-pandemic measures in December. Results? 95 million people, 329 caught the virus, 0 deaths as of today. Not 329 thousand. 329 people. That is what this could have looked like in most of the world, if the virus had been taken seriously and if our politicians cared about human life.

> there is no legitimate way to have a conversation

really, as in having that conversation would bring it into your home???

i dont know where this intolerant shutdown ofconversation even among the educated folks is going to lead us...

There are things that it is pointless to discuss. Fire is hot, water is wet, covid19 is one of the worst diseases to hit the world in 50 years and lockdowns and isolation are an absolute necessity to prevent it becoming an even bigger tragedy.

Of course there are people in the world who, genuinely or out of other interests, try to contest all sorts of things. The earth is flat, man made global warming is not happening, the earth is 6000 years old etc. That doesn't mean we need to seriously entertain these ideas just because some people do so, or claim to do so.

Yes, failing to care about a disease killing hundreds of thousands of people, and failing to protect yourself and loved ones, does seem like a good reason to end a friendship.