Re:How to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change
by devalgo on Monday June 01, 2020 @01:26PM
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1992 LA Riots caused over a $Billion in damage and 63 people died. Given that the scale of those riots far surpassed anything we're seeing now and given that nearly 30 years later another instance of police brutality preceded the current turmoil isn't it clear that your approach has failed?
Re:How to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change
by bbatsell on Monday June 01, 2020 @01:46PM
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LAPD underwent unprecedented reform in the wake of the riots. It’s certainly not a perfect department, but it is exponentially better than it was in 1992. You are making the opposite point you think you are. The riots and DoJ consent decrees are literally the _only_ tactics that have succeeded in the past.
The failure after the riots was that we didn’t treat it as a national problem and undertake systemic reform of our policing systems from root to stem.
Re:How to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change
by devalgo on Monday June 01, 2020 @02:03PM
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>The failure after the riots
It would appear that you in fact made my point for me.
Re:How to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change
by hackinthebochs on Monday June 01, 2020 @01:30PM
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Credit assignment is a hard problem. Let's not trivialize it with post hoc fallacies.
We've had protests, for separate occasions, happen years and years and decades ago, and it has not been enough.
At which point will it be enough? How many more protests will it take? How many more decades will it take? Is anyone still on the fence on 2020 about whether or not bad cops are being protected by their peers and superiors? Do you have a timeline for when this sort of thing will change?