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Re:To Make Police Accountable, End Qualified Immunity by awillen on Sunday May 31, 2020 @05:30PM (#23372924)
A police officer chooses to put his life on the line tens of times a year. Black people don't get that choice.

Anyway this is an idiotic bullshit argument in the context of George Floyd. The man was on the ground, unarmed with four police there. That police officer wasn't being asked to put his life on the line, so what you're saying is irrelevant.

Re:To Make Police Accountable, End Qualified Immunity by thephyber on Sunday May 31, 2020 @07:42PM (#23374090)
> Anyway this is an idiotic bullshit argument in the context of George Floyd. The man was on the ground, unarmed with four police there.

To be fair, that officer was both fired and was arrested + charged, which in my understanding means neither the (mayor? department?) and the prosecutor do not think qualified immunity is merited in this case.

It does drive us to the important point: where is the threshold where qualified immunity is forfeited?

Re:To Make Police Accountable, End Qualified Immunity by WesternStar on Monday June 01, 2020 @04:24AM (#23376363)
I'm for removing it entirely. We can build a new legal standard. The reasonable professional standard works fine for doctors.Seems like it should work fine for cops.
Re:To Make Police Accountable, End Qualified Immunity by thephyber on Monday June 01, 2020 @04:20PM (#23383283)
> The reasonable professional standard

I don't know much about it, but taking "qualified immunity", which is evaluated by prosecutors and DAs, and moving it to a police organization (expecting police to police the police) doesn't sound like an improvement.

Perhaps it would work if it was coupled with some sort of a complete overhaul in the culture of policing, but I don't see how the "culture" changes from the outside.

Re:To Make Police Accountable, End Qualified Immunity by jonny_eh on Monday June 01, 2020 @01:28AM (#23375676)
Who cares where the line is? It shouldn't exist.
Re:To Make Police Accountable, End Qualified Immunity by thephyber on Monday June 01, 2020 @04:25PM (#23383337)
Really? You don't think an arresting officer should be legally protected against frivolous lawsuits because they accidentally bruised the wrists of a non-compliant suspect in the act of handcuffing?

I'm more interested in hearing level-headed proposals.

Re:To Make Police Accountable, End Qualified Immunity by jonny_eh on Monday June 01, 2020 @06:15PM (#23384647)
> frivolous lawsuits

Let judges decide what lawsuits are frivolous.

Re:To Make Police Accountable, End Qualified Immunity by pontifier on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @03:14AM (#23400795)
Look at this guy that thinks judges can be trusted... LOL.
Re:To Make Police Accountable, End Qualified Immunity by jonny_eh on Thursday June 04, 2020 @03:33PM (#23420788)
It's literally their job title, lol.