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Re:Autism severity can change substantially during early chi... by globular-toast on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:52PM (#23372155)
I'm pretty autistic, but the funny thing is I don't keep friendships because I get bored, not them. I was a complete recluse during most of my time at university. I decided I wanted to mate with women when I was about 25 so started to make myself more "marketable". The first stage is being able to make friends.

First thing is the way you look. People like you more if you're good looking. First step is to make sure you're in excellent shape. That means lean to the extend that you can see your cheeks, abdominal muscles and veins on your forearms are prominent. Get yourself a pull up bar and start doing chin ups and press ups every single day.

Then once you're in shape you find a clothing style that works for you. Stick to classic. Don't dress like a child. Wear smart and expensive shoes. Aim to always dress slightly better than you should be at any event, but just slightly. Groom well. Smell good. Grow a beard if you can but keep it very well groomed. Shave your head if you're going bald.

You might think this sounds silly so far, but looking good is very, very important.

People will compliment you on your appearance. Take the compliments. Thank them. Do not automatically compliment them back.

Second thing is to work on your personality. You will be smarter than 95% of people you meet. There's no doubt about it. You will know more and care more about most subjects that come up. Do not under any circumstances use this to "one up" people. The number one rule you need to keep in mind is to be positive. Do NOT tell people they are doing something wrong. Do NOT tell people you don't like something. Always continue a conversation in a positive way. If they mention a band you don't like, mention a band you do like. If they mention a technique that is suboptimal, mention a technique you have found works for you (not "is better").

If you employ this positive outlook along with a broad knowledge and range of interests you will be a person that people like. Hope it helps.

Also, if you are willing to try drugs, MDMA might help you. I wouldn't recommend alcohol or cannabis to anyone, but MDMA is worth it.

Re:Autism severity can change substantially during early chi... by leetcrew on Sunday May 31, 2020 @05:22PM (#23372848)
some of the wording you used was kind of blunt, but I mostly agree with what you said, especially as a "socializing 101" type explanation.

> The number one rule you need to keep in mind is to be positive. Do NOT tell people they are doing something wrong. Do NOT tell people you don't like something. Always continue a conversation in a positive way. If they mention a band you don't like, mention a band you do like. If they mention a technique that is suboptimal, mention a technique you have found works for you (not "is better").

I want to push back on this a little bit. it's important not to turn every conversation into a debate, but you can go too far with the positivity as well. it's okay to disagree with someone and say so from time to time. if you never disagree with someone, they will probably find you pretty boring.

Re:Autism severity can change substantially during early chi... by globular-toast on Monday June 01, 2020 @02:50AM (#23375943)
That's true but if you're going to disagree you have to be presenting your own argument and be ready to genuinely convince them. Too many slightly autistic computer science students would just go on a tirade against the thing the other person said without arguing for anything else.
Re:Autism severity can change substantially during early chi... by pbhjpbhj on Sunday May 31, 2020 @05:05PM (#23372711)
>You might think this sounds silly //

Not wanting to offend but "sociopathic" is the word that comes to mind for me. Like "I'll do this to manipulate people and induce this response". I'm not going to say you won't be successful, just that your approach sounds very clinical and lacking in warmth and personality.

You do you, I guess.

Re:Autism severity can change substantially during early chi... by globular-toast on Monday June 01, 2020 @04:32AM (#23376404)
Don't worry, you can't offend me. Lacking "warmth" is my personality. It's just who I am. This isn't about being fake, it's just about explicitly learning things which other people seem to "just know".
Re:Autism severity can change substantially during early chi... by nicoburns on Sunday May 31, 2020 @05:18PM (#23372823)
I don't think it's manipulative unless done with malicious intent. If someone is doing nice things for you in order to encourage you to like them, then... good.
Re:Autism severity can change substantially during early chi... by Viliam1234 on Monday June 01, 2020 @05:22PM (#23384027)
When I teach my kids to say "please" when they ask for things and "thank you" when they receive them, am I training them to be little manipulative sociopaths?

There are social rules that many people get told in childhood, or learn by observation. Those who didn't learn them, for whatever reason, may benefit from being told explicitly now.

Also, don't worry. Out of 100 people who read "make sure you're in excellent shape", 99 won't. And the remaining one is probably not a sociopath, and will not become one by following this rule.