Re:Mist Showers: Sustainable Decadence? (2019)
by red_admiral on Saturday May 30, 2020 @09:08AM
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That I could get behind. The parent post though said "positively reward them (via tone—and other UI hints—of the message, e.g., “you reduced your shower carbon by X this month! Great work!”)" and that crosses my personal line for creepiness.
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Re:Mist Showers: Sustainable Decadence? (2019)
by andrei_says_ on Saturday May 30, 2020 @06:24PM
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Thank you for mentioning Kohn’s work.
It boggles my mind how super smart people just don’t get that human beings cannot be incentivized the same way rats and birds can.
Reward/punishments (same thing) kill intrinsic motivation. It has been proven countless times.
Providing feedback as in making something visible is another story altogether and can be empowering.
Speaking to people like an adult trying to manipulate 3-year olds is condescending, inappropriate and repulsive.
Re:Mist Showers: Sustainable Decadence? (2019)
by aspenmayer on Saturday May 30, 2020 @03:53PM
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What you are referring to has significant overlaps to my concept of “libertarian paternalism,” more familiar to me as so-called “benevolent paternalism,” and was popularized by the book Nudge: Improving Decisions about Health, Wealth, and Happiness.