I know it's not the point you were trying to make but

> Any human interaction with a shark in its environment, shark wins.

this is straight-up wrong. Humans and sharks interact all. the. time. They're not killing machines.

I imagine you probably know that, so I'm not trying to patronize you (honestly). But this is really important.

SHARKS KILLED 4 HUMANS IN 2018. HUMANS KILLED 100 MILLION SHARKS IN 2018.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/01/28/shark-a...

So what you're saying is, "yes, they are killing machines", with "they" being "the humans."

Well, not by swimming with them.

I'm not sure. Plenty of people swim in waters where sharks are regularly observed. And still the attacks are low. And further, with many attacks, I think in particular great-whites, they back off after the first bite, which allows for much greater survivability. So the ratio of "shark contact" to "sharks win" is probably low. And if you also add in fishing for sharks (such as for fins) humans probably kill a lot more sharks than the other way around.

Hm. Not convinced. Contact with sharks vs contact with mosquitoes, or with dogs, or anything else on that list?

Most people spend maybe hours a year in shark ecosystem. Vs 365 days a year in dog country, or mosquito etc.

> Contact with sharks vs contact with mosquitoes, or with dogs, or anything else on that list?

Swimming with reef sharks vs taking a hike in a malaria infested jungle? Swimming with reef sharks please.

Certainly the amount of contact plays a roll. That's why dogs are so much higher than wolves for instance. But it's also true that most of the time people spend swimming around sharks, they don't get bitten. How the ratio of attacks to contacts compares between sharks and dogs or other animals I don't know; agreed that would be somewhat interesting!

I've dived with sharks for years now. Most of them are some of the gentlest, shiest creatures in the water. In years of these interactions, neither I nor the shark won because literally nothing happened. They just run away from you if you get too close.

Most sharks will run away from the human as the human and their bubbles look far bigger than they are. They are more intimidated by us than we are by them.