Re:In NY major crime complaints fell when cops stopped ‘proa...
by SpicyLemonZest on Friday May 29, 2020 @11:50AM
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We should step back and look! What concerns me about policing is that a lot of proposals seem to reduce to ignoring the problem; there's a particular famous city a bit north of me where it's just become accepted that the streets should be covered in poop and shattered window glass. So I'm skeptical of alternatives which can't clearly explain how they will stop people from doing crimes.
Re:In NY major crime complaints fell when cops stopped ‘proa...
by craftinator on Friday May 29, 2020 @12:37PM
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> Poop and shattered window glass
These are symptoms of wealth inequality. Do you see wealthy people going around defecating on the ground or breaking glass? No. Do you see middle class people doing these actions? No. These are actions taken by homeless people (and teenagers), who have nothing worth while to do with their time, no money for idle entertainment, and awful living conditions.
Re:In NY major crime complaints fell when cops stopped ‘proa...
by SpicyLemonZest on Friday May 29, 2020 @05:15PM
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This just strikes me as an intensely disrespectful hypothesis. Poor people and teenagers are people just like you and I; the vast majority of them are good citizens who feel no impulse to do crimes or poop on the street.
This is one of the things I really dislike about a lot of politics, I see it all too often. There's a problem, so we need to do something in the name of fixing it - doesn't matter if it helps or not, we just have to be able to say we're doing something. But maybe we should step back and look at whether there are better ways to deal with the problems.