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Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by crazygringo on Friday May 29, 2020 @11:07AM (#23350795)
Well, in political science and sociology, one of the most common definitions of the state is that it possesses a monopoly on legitimate/lawful violence.

Violence conducted via the military or police, according to regulation, is lawful.

But violence conducted by citizens, or by members of the government or military that is not according to law/regulation, is not lawful.

I'm not saying Twitter's drawing the line exactly right, but it's somewhere in the right vicinity.

Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by acituan on Friday May 29, 2020 @11:47AM (#23351377)
Presidents are also commanders in chief; a civilian that has ultimate control of state’s violence monopoly. Still the distinction between lawful/unlawful applies.
Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by lostmsu on Friday May 29, 2020 @11:22AM (#23351003)
Wasn't Trump referring to stand your ground laws?
Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by sangnoir on Friday May 29, 2020 @11:58AM (#23351548)
Minnesota does not have stand your ground laws. Instead, they have duty to retreat laws (basically, you can use deadly force to protect your life, not property).
Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by lostmsu on Friday May 29, 2020 @02:21PM (#23353602)
Perhaps Trump did not know that :-D (I did not).
Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by Avicebron on Friday May 29, 2020 @12:15PM (#23351849)
And if a looter is threatening your life?
Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by sangnoir on Friday May 29, 2020 @12:19PM (#23351915)
Refer to sentence in parentheses.
Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by GaryNumanVevo on Friday May 29, 2020 @11:32AM (#23351140)
no, it's a clear reference to Walter Headly

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/where-does-phrase-...

Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by lostmsu on Friday May 29, 2020 @11:38AM (#23351242)
Then I don't understand the reasoning in the parent comment at all.
Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by germinalphrase on Friday May 29, 2020 @12:04PM (#23351651)
Minnesota does not have a Stand Your Ground law.
Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by daveslash on Friday May 29, 2020 @11:41AM (#23351295)
"Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts"

I think Trump's saying that if things get out of control, law enforcement will start shooting. If I understand your post correctly, this would be lawful...

Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by jaredmosley on Friday May 29, 2020 @12:46PM (#23352284)
Well, it is not legal to shoot someone for stealing in Minnesota so I'm not sure how this would be lawful violence. He would need to have said something like "when the looting starts, we will attempt to arrest anyone that we see, if they then threaten the officers' lives instead of stopping or running away, then the shooting starts".

It is NOT legal for the Minnesota police to shoot a citizen that they believe is committing a crime unless their life or another person's life is under direct threat.

Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by daveslash on Friday May 29, 2020 @01:45PM (#23353087)
Well, yes - you're of course right. And Trump should have said something different, like you suggested. I'm not defending the tweet in any way. I was suggesting that the tweet was in alignment with the idea that the state has a monopoly on violence. But I think I read crazygringo's comment too fast and didn't really digest the emphasis on lawful/legal/regulated violence. In other-words, I derp'd.
Re:Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence” by aianus on Friday May 29, 2020 @12:40PM (#23352198)
Twitter didn't draw the line at promoting violence (which is a line I can agree with), they drew the line at a prediction of mail-in voting resulting in fraud.