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Re:U.K. Plans Citizenship for Hong Kong Residents in Row wit... by robocat on Friday May 29, 2020 @02:42AM (#23346923)
How about countries provide citizenship for refugee status if someone is being politically targeted?

If not done officially, but everyone knows that by being a political activist you can get foreign citizenship, you have just motivated people to fight!

Edit: dual-citizenship for an activist puts a China into a catch-22. China can’t complain if the optics are that the activist is just a normal person asserting their rights. If China does attack the activist, then the other country can rightfully argue that the activist is a political refugee, and as a citizen of their country they can defend them properly.

Re:U.K. Plans Citizenship for Hong Kong Residents in Row wit... by ardy42 on Friday May 29, 2020 @02:57AM (#23346998)
> If not done officially, but everyone knows that by being a political activist you can get foreign citizenship, you have just motivated people to fight!

No, I think you'd end up motivating more to flee: a lot of people won't fight unless their backs' are against the wall.

You'd also probably end up stabilizing a bunch of nasty regimes by giving them someplace to dump their dissidents without inviting much backlash.

Re:U.K. Plans Citizenship for Hong Kong Residents in Row wit... by toxik on Friday May 29, 2020 @03:16AM (#23347114)
Political asylum is a very common cause for immigration though, so isn’t this already the case?
Re:U.K. Plans Citizenship for Hong Kong Residents in Row wit... by kelnos on Friday May 29, 2020 @04:43AM (#23347721)
I think people view political asylum as a last resort, though, and it's generally not all that easy to get, at least in the "more desirable" countries.
Re:U.K. Plans Citizenship for Hong Kong Residents in Row wit... by luckylion on Friday May 29, 2020 @05:46AM (#23348078)
It's certainly not trivially easy, but it's also not that hard, and even if you get denied, you will generally be allowed to stay unless you're from a small set of countries. Deportation is rare in Europe.
Re:U.K. Plans Citizenship for Hong Kong Residents in Row wit... by michaelt on Friday May 29, 2020 @05:19AM (#23347943)
The UK's general refugee/asylum policy is, to describe it generously, not designed to project an international image that it's easy to get in. In 2016, we accepted 28% of applicants.

Would you punch a policeman if told "if you punch that policeman, there's a 28% chance we'll stop you getting in trouble for it" ? I think that's not an offer that's going to convince many people.

Re:U.K. Plans Citizenship for Hong Kong Residents in Row wit... by luckylion on Friday May 29, 2020 @03:19AM (#23347126)
> How about countries provide citizenship for refugee status if someone is being politically targeted?

They do, just not immediately. All (most? are there any exceptions?) Western countries have a road to citizenship for accepted asylum seekers.

Re:U.K. Plans Citizenship for Hong Kong Residents in Row wit... by jonathanstrange on Friday May 29, 2020 @05:03AM (#23347852)
It's called asylum law and exists in many countries, including all EU countries.
Re:U.K. Plans Citizenship for Hong Kong Residents in Row wit... by jsnider3 on Friday May 29, 2020 @02:58AM (#23347003)
This is a beautiful idea.