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Re:AudioMass – free, open source, web-based Audio and Wavefo... by rectang on Thursday May 28, 2020 @06:13PM (#23343484)
What exists as far as open source digital audio interfaces? Meaning only digital i/o — no analog.

It seems like a relatively contained problem to take multiple streams of PCM audio into a computer, locked to word clock. Then the hard, fiddly aspects of analog design can be left to high-quality outboard converters which speak MADI or whatever.

I say "contained" because I don't want to minimize the difficulty of getting such a design right, but it seems like you only have to get it right once.

Re:AudioMass – free, open source, web-based Audio and Wavefo... by nsajko on Thursday May 28, 2020 @06:29PM (#23343664)
Is USB not sufficient?
Re:AudioMass – free, open source, web-based Audio and Wavefo... by rectang on Thursday May 28, 2020 @07:21PM (#23344278)
What I'm looking for is a way to hook up any converter which outputs via a standard digital audio protocol (SPIDF, AES/EBU, ADAT lightpipe, etc.).

Then we don't need a USB driver for each converter! We only need one USB driver, for the digital i/o interface. And we can polish the driver for that one interface until it's actually reliable, instead of relying on the sketchy one-off driver for this year's soon-to-be-obsolete USB audio interface.

ETA: Many such converters (most of them high-end) listed here: https://www.sweetwater.com/c796--AD_DA_Converters

Re:AudioMass – free, open source, web-based Audio and Wavefo... by jcelerier on Friday May 29, 2020 @02:59AM (#23347013)
> SPIDF, AES/EBU, ADAT lightpipe, etc.

If I'm not mistaken the underlying transport protocol is the same for all of those - you can get a coaxial to XLR to get S/PDIF into an AES port or a coaxial to TOSLink converter to get S/PDIF data into an ADAT port.

You can look into the Madiface XT maybe ? https://www.rme-audio.de/hdspe-madi-fx.html or the other RME products which have enough digital I/O to cover a lot of needs

Re:AudioMass – free, open source, web-based Audio and Wavefo... by rectang on Friday May 29, 2020 @10:25AM (#23350291)
In terms of i/o capability, the specs of the Madiface XT would work well for the purposes I'm proposing.

But the point is that I want open source drivers, and open source hardware! I don't want to depend on the health and the priorities of a commercial entity. I want to be able to inspect the driver software and contribute towards perfecting it!

Compared to, say, GPUs, the needs of multichannel digital audio i/o are modest and not changing very much over time.

Re:AudioMass – free, open source, web-based Audio and Wavefo... by nsajko on Friday May 29, 2020 @08:43AM (#23349272)
> If I'm not mistaken the underlying transport protocol

Some quick usage of Wikipedia suggest that you are, sadly, mistaken. ADAT lightpipe seems to use a completely different protocol (more capable?), and while S/PDIF and AES/EBU use quite similar protocols, they differ in impedance and max and min voltages, so I'm guessing that directly electrically connecting the two controllers is a bad idea for both the controller and the data.

Re:AudioMass – free, open source, web-based Audio and Wavefo... by rectang on Friday May 29, 2020 @10:31AM (#23350335)
It doesn't matter for the purposes I'm investigating. So long as we can get the bits out of the wire and into open source software, we can make sense of them.

(Licensing could be a concern though if ADAT lightpipe is proprietary — I'm not clear on that. But then we could just use other open protocols instead.)