Re:Boeing cutting more than 12,000 U.S. jobs with thousands ...
by ryanbrunner on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @02:15PM
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There's a cost associated with this as well though. Those lower costs don't come for free - they come from increased efficiency which translates to fewer workers and less money being redirected into local economies.
Re:Boeing cutting more than 12,000 U.S. jobs with thousands ...
by sokoloff on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @02:25PM
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Is more workers to achieve the same total outcome a desirable state? It seems like what you’re proposing doing there is literally wasting entire human work lives for zero productive output.
Re:Boeing cutting more than 12,000 U.S. jobs with thousands ...
by ryanbrunner on Thursday May 28, 2020 @05:59AM
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If you took this to an unrealistic extreme, where 100% of all jobs are automated, every cent of profit flows into the hands of owners and shareholders, and there's literally no job that labour can take, that's clearly and obviously worse. The flipside, where efficiency is at it's lowest, and every single product ever is hand-crafted with a tremendous amount of labour seems obviously bad too.
Of course, those are both ridiculous extremes - the answer to what balance is healthiest for an economy I'm sure is immensely complicated. I'm just saying that efficiency doesn't come without costs, and we shouldn't design our entire economy completely around the interests of shareholders of major corporations.
Re:Boeing cutting more than 12,000 U.S. jobs with thousands ...
by Retric on Thursday May 28, 2020 @09:06AM
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It seems like your automated example allows a welfare state to provide a better quality of life than we currently enjoy. Having people do pointless jobs for the same income at that point seems inherently worse.
That said, I have serious doubts that everything can be automated as that suggests all human labor would be providing zero value.
Clearly there are some downsides, but managing them via laws and regulations is possible.