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Re:Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site le... by ENOTTY on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @03:10PM (#23315239)
Here's the paragraph I found most damning. It would make me want to assign liability to Facebook.

> The high number of extremist groups was concerning, the presentation says. Worse was Facebook’s realization that its algorithms were responsible for their growth. The 2016 presentation states that “64% of all extremist group joins are due to our recommendation tools” and that most of the activity came from the platform’s “Groups You Should Join” and “Discover” algorithms: “Our recommendation systems grow the problem.”

Re:Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site le... by tantalor on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @03:43PM (#23315577)
You are surprised? Here's the mission statement:

> Facebook's mission is to give people the power to build community and bring the world closer together. People use Facebook to stay connected with friends and family, to discover what's going on in the world, and to share and express what matters to them.

Encouraging group communication is the primary goal, regardless of the consequences.

Re:Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site le... by ENOTTY on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @06:32PM (#23317225)
It’s one thing to enable people to seek out extremist communities on their own. It’s quite another to build recommendation systems that push people towards these communities. That’s putting a thumb on the scale and that’s entirely Facebook’s doing.

This is one example, and it’s quite possibly a poor example as it is a partisan example, but Reddit allows The_Donald subreddit to remain open, but it has been delisted from search, the front page, and Reddit’s recommendation systems.

Re:Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site le... by razzimatazz on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @06:15PM (#23317078)
It sounds like an honorable goal, doesn't it? But when you build a community that becomes simply a place for shared anger, you allow that anger to be amplified and seem more legitimate.
Re:Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site le... by thrwn_frthr_awy on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @04:29PM (#23316025)
I thought the most interesting part was Mark asking not to be bothered with these types of issues in the future. By saying do it, but cut it 80%, he sounds like he wants to be able to say he made the decision to "reduce" extremism, but without really making a change.
Re:Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site le... by guy_ro on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @10:17PM (#23318742)
Hey, Facebook VP here (I work on this). We’ve made some meaningful changes to address this since 2016. We’ve strengthened our enforcement in groups and have been actively working on our recommendation tools as well, for example removing groups with extremist content that violates our policies, from recommendations.
Re:Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site le... by ENOTTY on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @11:21PM (#23319058)
As quoted, the presentation laid out at least one clear metrics by which one could measure your performance.

> “64% of all extremist group joins are due to our recommendation tools”

How does Facebook currently define extremist group and how does that contrast with the definition of extremist group used in the presentation?

Re:Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site le... by inimino on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @03:33PM (#23315489)
Of course, it's hard to assign blame without looking at how "extremist groups" are defined and at whether the recommendation tools do good as well as harm.