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Re:Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology by philwelch on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @02:59PM (#23315109)
That’s one way of reading it. Another, more cynical reading is that if companies are amoral in the first place, why do they bother issuing insincere apologies that don’t actually benefit them? Less of a, “companies should be sociopathic” and more of a, “why do these sociopathic companies behave in this way that’s inconsistent with their otherwise-well-demonstrated pattern of sociopathic behavior?”

And sure, maybe the answer is that they’re not sociopathic in the first place. But that’s a very non-cynical answer. Credulous, perhaps.

Re:Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology by akerl_ on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @03:09PM (#23315211)
This, essentially. But more specifically: if I were in Triplebyte’s shoes, I’d have probably done one of two things:

Either just release the feature anyway, and maybe default it to opt-in for people with existing content, maybe make it “only content from $now forward is public”, something to that effect.

Halt the feature, but expend the minimum possible effort on the message out: “Hi all, we’ve reconsidered the feature in light of feedback. Thanks, CEO”.

It’s not clear to me that applying more time/effort to explaining themselves to the world has done them any benefit. There’s the bulk of people who didn’t notice / don’t care, there’s people who are permanently angry, and there’s people who are going to want to see actual changes before they revisit.

The people who work for a business are incentivized to live lives that let them sleep well at night, but it’s entirely possible for them to learn from this experience and behave differently in the future without bothering to respond to the mob.

Re:Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology by kerkeslager on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @11:06AM (#23324462)
So basically, if you were in TripleByte's shoes, you'd react without conscience?

You have accused me of misinterpreting your intent elsewhere, but really I don't know how you expect me to interpret this that would cast you in a more positive light. You're saying you would do unethical things, so I don't think I'm off-base to say you might be unethical.

Re:Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology by philwelch on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @07:42PM (#23331587)
It’s not “without conscience” to change the default from opt-out to opt-in and it’s not “without conscience” to withdraw the entire feature citing negative feedback, so I think that’s a very uncharitable representation that you’re making.
Re:Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology by kerkeslager on Thursday May 28, 2020 @04:25PM (#23342137)
I'm specifically reacting to akerl_ saying that they wouldn't apologize because there's no selfish benefit.
Re:Tell HN: Triplebyte reverses, emails apology by philwelch on Thursday May 28, 2020 @04:50PM (#23342389)
I think the point is more that elaborate apologies and mea culpas don’t actually help anyone. They don’t help the company that does them and they don’t really do anything for us as customers either.

As a customer, am I going to believe TripleByte is sincere when they apologize to me? Maybe, but probably not. The only way to be sure is to judge them by their actions.

And in this case in particular, there’s not technically anything to apologize for since they never actually rolled out the feature.

Any liar can make beautiful apologies without meaning a word of them. It takes an honest person to demonstrate conscience through their actions.