I guess few large-ish companies have managed to keep their communication platforms rationalized and consistent. It's more important for Mozilla to stay open than it is for most places, though.

Mozilla chose Matrix, not Discord, for example.

(Also, while the popular version is "Rust chose Discord," it's actually more complex than that: each team decides what they want. Many chose Discord. A bunch chose Zulip. The embedded working group is on Matrix.)

> Rust's decisions about chat platforms has nothing to do with Mozilla.

Is Rust not a project of mozilla?

But at this point however you can't really call it a Mozilla project as active development is no longer dominated by Mozilla employees. Holding the trademark is just a formality owing to there not being a better way to do that without starting up a new Foundation.

Gotcha, I missed this. Very odd.

> Is Rust not a project of mozilla?

Mozilla was the first sponsor of the project, and still sponsors a bunch of stuff to this day. But they don't own the project, and cannot make decisions on its behalf.

It pops right up for me with #/room/#rust:matrix.org at the top of the list.

Now try searching for Firefox.

There's a Russian Firefox community on Page 2 of the search results. There are beta and nightly groups on page 3. There's various other noise. But the maintainers have hidden the real Matrix room for Firefox so well, it doesn't even seem to be in the search index.

The choice was public. The move has not been public at all.

It is not deprecated. It is completely dead. Try connecting to irc.mozilla.org — you can’t because it’s permanently offline.

That's patently false. It pales in comparison to the telemetry sent by Edge:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/03/study...

Regardless, I said that it was the pioneer, not that it has the most telemetry.

And there are no other major customers willing to pay Mozilla. Pretty much the only other options are Yahoo/Verizon (they are currently in a legal fight With Mozilla about a breach of contract that happened in 2017), and Bing (but Microsoft is currently on a mission to promote new Edge, and even included various pop-ups in Windows 10 to discourage people from using Firefox, so I don’t think they are interested in being Mozilla’s customer at the moment).

Mozilla has to stay in bed with google, and this is going to muddle any kind of privacy-related initiatives and communication from them.

I know they terminated it (and kept the money) when Yahoo was sold to Verizon but I had not heard they signed a new deal with Google, I assume they were surviving off the Yahoo Money still

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3487825/mozilla-in-tro...

I wish people didn't instinctively downvote when someone is wrong on a technicality, but this is a site filled with nerds after all lol

EDIT: i guess he isnt even technically wrong.