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Re:Mastodon: Add end-to-end encryption API by Hitton on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @07:46AM (#23309897)
>What about spam and legitimate abuse?

You can block the spammer yourself. I'm not sure if the feature is about only private communication between two users or in channel, but if it's in channel, there can be bot logging messages. That way the bot's owner still knows who posted what and can ban/moderate as needed.

>Do you think these things should be allowed to run rampant just because you believe that an admin's decision to not communicate with you is that terrible?

I have no idea what are you talking about. Are you reacting to what I wrote or to your own projections about my beliefs?

Re:Mastodon: Add end-to-end encryption API by progval on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @07:58AM (#23310005)
If the spammer spams thousands of people, it's a better use of everyone's time if an admin bans it once and for all.
Re:Mastodon: Add end-to-end encryption API by Hitton on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @08:32AM (#23310276)
Spamming thousands of people can be detected without knowing the content. And if you accept messages from other people than those you are following, you have to accept you will inevitably get some spam. It's like getting PGP encrypted email - you can't expect server spam filter to catch it based on its content and if you report it as a spam, server spam filter doesn't see the content.
Re:Mastodon: Add end-to-end encryption API by macieklaskus on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @08:19AM (#23310185)
There are other solutions to this problem that don't require 3rd party intervention. For example, users could follow each other's block lists.

If Bob spams thousands of accounts he'd quickly get on multiple block lists.

Re:Mastodon: Add end-to-end encryption API by loceng on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @08:22AM (#23310211)
Is Bob a verified, known identity, or does he simply create unlimited accounts and continue the spamming or abuse?
Re:Mastodon: Add end-to-end encryption API by drngdds on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @08:45AM (#23310399)
Mastodon is federated, so you already get to choose who your content moderators will be when you pick a server. Blocklists are just an informal and spammy-by-default version of that.
Re:Mastodon: Add end-to-end encryption API by mdszy on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @09:37AM (#23310921)
>You can block the spammer yourself.

This is nonsense. Do you really think everyone should have to deal with spam themselves? Do you disable spam filters on your email and deal with all of that on your own? Do you think, on a site like HN, we should have to filter spam ourselves too?

The internet would be completely unusable if it was expected that everyone deal with spam themselves. This is ludicrous.