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Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by ferzul on Monday May 25, 2020 @03:24PM (#23304035)
> In US a convicted pedophile with own pedo-island, and connections all over the elites, media and government disappears from the prison cell in a dubious suicide where all cameras stopped working and many other "coincidences" happened and not much happens about it.

i know what you're talking about tho. pretty much, this means the topic is well discussed and not subject to censorship.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by rsynnott on Monday May 25, 2020 @05:18PM (#23305088)
While I'm not sure that Epstein is the best example, US media has certainly been known to indulge in fairly dramatic soft self-censorship. I actually think this is less common than it used to be; the internet breaks it a bit.

A notable case was the unraveling of the whole Iraq WMD story, and especially the yellowcake affair. I suspect that this was notable precisely because well-informed Americans could see BBC et al covering it via the internet while the US media largely ignored it, though; pre-internet cases of media self-censorship would have been far less visible.

In an environment where the Guardian, Daily Mail and various other foreign papers have massive US market penetration via the internet, this sort of thing is probably way less useful; media self-censorship will only be useful for the section of the population who get their news solely from TV (or where the entire global media colludes to censor something, but that seems far less likely).

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by javagram on Monday May 25, 2020 @11:49PM (#23307239)
> A notable case was the unraveling of the whole Iraq WMD story, and especially the yellowcake affair.

This was major news in the US in my recollection. https://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/opinion/what-i-didn-t-fin... is about the yellowcake.

A pro-war pundit then outed Wilson’s spouse as a CIA employee and there was a widely publicized special counsel investigation into the matter of the outing that was discussed a lot at the time.

So I don’t really understand the idea that the US media as a whole was self-censoring this...

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by spockz on Monday May 25, 2020 @04:23PM (#23304565)
That is exactly the parent’s point. Controlling the narrative is way more effective than brutal deletion of a subject for censuring purposes.
Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by int_19h on Monday May 25, 2020 @04:47PM (#23304797)
I don't see any signs of that narrative being successfully controlled. In fact, I've yet to see any discussion where "didn't kill himself" didn't manifest immediately.
Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by TillE on Monday May 25, 2020 @04:56PM (#23304890)
And what does all that talk amount to, exactly?

It's a cute little "conspiracy theory" for the masses to play with, nobody in power is threatened in the slightest. In many ways it's self-neutered by turning that phrase into a mindless meme.

The soft censorship means we've seen effectively zero mainstream investigation into any of the glaringly obvious questions.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by hutzlibu on Monday May 25, 2020 @05:19PM (#23305106)
And "conspiracy theory" in general today means: pothead crazy garbage, as if politics isn't a histories of small and big conspiracies.

No need to censor any truth anymore, if it simply does not reach anyone because it is burried in a huge pile of garbage information, most people have not the time sorting it through.any

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by majewsky on Monday May 25, 2020 @07:21PM (#23305917)
"Conspiracy theory" is set equal to "pothead crazy garbage" because 99% of conspiracy theories are just that. An instance of Sturgeon's Law, if you will.
Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by int_19h on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @11:24PM (#23319070)
What you're saying is that it doesn't matter that information does get around and everybody knows, because we can't do anything about it. That's not "soft censorship", though - that's lack of the need to censor, because the population can be kept in check even while informed.
Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by Dahoon on Monday May 25, 2020 @05:25PM (#23305145)
> I've yet to see any discussion

Discussions isn't the point though. Articles in big newspapers and TV stations, not forum chitchat.

Re:A No. 1 hit vanished from Poland’s charts – it’s not goin... by Udik on Monday May 25, 2020 @05:49PM (#23305322)
BTW, did anyone hear anything more about those Israeli cellphone-spying devices that were discovered all around the White House? :)

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/12/israel-white-house...