Re:Setting the story straight on quite a few issues
by majewsky on Sunday May 24, 2020 @05:57PM
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> In the end, everyone deep down would rather not have to work for someone else, or to not work at all.
I very much disagree. I like that my company cares about things like sales/marketing/HR/finance so I don't have to. And anyway, for most jobs, you need a supporting structure that has your back, like a company or a government agency or whatever. Sure, you could start your own company, but at that point you'll most likely spend more time doing management rather than actual work. I like that I can focus on my technical role since I'm very much not a manager type.
Re:Setting the story straight on quite a few issues
by toyg on Monday May 25, 2020 @12:43AM
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If you didn’t have to earn money to live, you wouldn’t need to have a company or whatnot - that is my point.
Re:Setting the story straight on quite a few issues
by majewsky on Monday May 25, 2020 @01:14PM
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You still want to accomplish goals, and most goals require some sort of organization that bears the initial/ongoing investment and provides you with the back office etc. For instance, even if you're the best surgeon in the world, you won't be about to run a hospital all on your own.
I think any blue-collar worker would be laughing his ass off at this statement.
> paid about as well as dentists, and they still often quit after a couple years. This is way above the $75K happiness threshold.
Fuck-you-money actually enables this sort of freedom, since you're less scared of going jobless for a few months thanks to all the fat you've stored. So might as well quit and think about things for a while. Over certain levels, the meaning of one's job can take priority over immediate compensation.
> We literally can't pay them enough to stay working for us!
In the end, everyone deep down would rather not have to work for someone else, or to not work at all. Programmers in tech hotspots are lucky enough to actually be able to do it, and pretty often too, without any serious repercussion. For many, this is a golden age the likes of which we've never seen.
> In what industries do you commonly see managers threatening or bullying workers?
All of them - we wouldn't have unions otherwise. There is a reason the word "boss" has negative connotations.