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Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by PeterStuer on Sunday May 24, 2020 @12:06AM (#23288985)
Imagine someone smoking a cigar. If you could smell it, then you are in contagious range.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by riffraff on Sunday May 24, 2020 @12:51AM (#23289197)
The virus survives in water droplets or aerosol which fall down faster than smoke.

You can easily smell cigar smoke at 10 meters but you are ver unlikely to get infected at the same distance, current estimates put it to 4 meters in hospital settings.

Also,the amount of virus you receive matters, and distance decreases it.

Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by PeterStuer on Sunday May 24, 2020 @02:43AM (#23289665)
You are right about viral load being a factor. You are not right about only macro droplets being a problem. Micro dropplets, that are suspended in air and do not "fall to the ground" soon carry enough of the virus to be infectious in accumulation. This is why indoor areas are problematic regardless of the 6 foot spacing, as the air just gets saturated over time unless you have a continual strong crossdraft.

The smoke analogy is not perfect, as it's composition is less moist, but it is closer to the truth than the '6 foot' model that was itself already a compromise between the now accepted as disproved macro fluid projectile model and economic concerns.

Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by gshdg on Sunday May 24, 2020 @10:11AM (#23291633)
And that strong cross draft can be blowing it directly into someone else’s airspace anyway.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by ralls_ebfe on Sunday May 24, 2020 @03:56AM (#23289938)
There is not much difference between smelling cigars and smelling my neighbours smoking weed, is there? It never occurred to me, that being able to smell this might indicate danger.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by SirHound on Sunday May 24, 2020 @12:52AM (#23289200)
Is smoke water droplets?
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by gstipi on Sunday May 24, 2020 @01:31AM (#23289368)
In case of tobacco smoke, Wikipedia says yes:

"The particles in tobacco smoke are liquid aerosol droplets (~ 20% water), ..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoke

Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by 8note on Sunday May 24, 2020 @01:27AM (#23289353)
Vape is, isn't it?
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by CamperBob2 on Sunday May 24, 2020 @04:27AM (#23290082)
A disturbing claim, for sure. Any pointers to evidence for it?
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by netsharc on Sunday May 24, 2020 @06:43AM (#23290638)
Not OP, but I had the same theory but with cigarettes. According to Google results, cigarette smoke particles are 0.25 micron at the largest, Sars-CoV-2 virus is 0.12 micron, so about half. They're both so light that gravity probably has little effect.

So, sharing a room with someone sick probably gives you a high chance of encountering the virus, but outdoors one hopes the concentrations would be so low that our bodies can fight it off.

And if you're wearing a mask and can still smell cigarette smoke, then surely it means that mask would let the virus particles through as well.

Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline by TeMPOraL on Sunday May 24, 2020 @06:53AM (#23290677)
And in fact, this is how you test the respirator fit in professional setting. You don your respirator, and then somebody sprays a funny-smelling substance. If you can smell it, it means it doesn't have a proper seal on your face.