Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by esotericn on Saturday May 23, 2020 @08:56PM
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For every pint they don't drink, I'll drink two? :)
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by koolba on Saturday May 23, 2020 @08:58PM
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I feel like I’m already doing that now.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by esotericn on Saturday May 23, 2020 @09:01PM
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You're in good company there ;)
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by Barrin92 on Saturday May 23, 2020 @09:24PM
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>You maybe, but how many others will?
I'm willing to bet you in the next ~12-24 months virtually everyone. This isn't the first pandemic in human history. It's frankly ridiculous how people seem to have no awareness of how strongly we tend to overestimate events simply because we're living through them.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by spideymans on Saturday May 23, 2020 @09:27PM
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Yes but prior large pandemics have had triggered losing lasting social and economic changes. Things won’t necessarily go back to how they were before. Only time will tell
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by 2019-nCoV on Saturday May 23, 2020 @08:51PM
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Counterexample: pubs reopened this past weekend in NZ and every venue was at capacity. No tourists, but increased domestic consumption.
This will obviously be more pronounced in countries with a greater historic discrepancy between tourism expenditure and receipts.
e.g. Spain will no doubt be more effected than NZ, whereas the UK could actually benefit:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/ST.INT.XPND.CD?end=2018...
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/ST.INT.RCPT.CD?end=2018...
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by Gibbon1 on Saturday May 23, 2020 @08:56PM
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Yeah but unlike the US it's possible the the virus is no longer present in NZ.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by 2019-nCoV on Saturday May 23, 2020 @09:08PM
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That's thinking too macro. The virus will plausibly be eliminated in the US gradually, e.g. French red/green zones.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by dan-robertson on Saturday May 23, 2020 @09:49PM
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Red/green zones or just about any partial/segregated lockdown seems likely to not work. Being in a red zone is worse than being in a green zone so people are incentivised to move from red zones to green zones (if they can). This is not what you want. It seems hard to restrict movement or enforce a strict quarantine in countries that are generally not planned to support restricting movement across internal boundaries.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by dehrmann on Sunday May 24, 2020 @12:45AM
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I doubt this. It was spreading the Bay Area in late December. The first reported case with local transmission was in late February. That said, we weren't really looking for it, but without incredibly widespread testing, they best we can do is keep it lurking in the background.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by Gibbon1 on Saturday May 23, 2020 @10:37PM
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The longer it's allowed to persist the more social and economic damage.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by Izkata on Saturday May 23, 2020 @09:14PM
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> and every venue was at capacity. No tourists, but increased domestic consumption.
I can't help but wonder if we're gonna have another century repeat: After the Spanish Flu came the Roaring Twenties.
Re:London may have gone into a Covid-accelerated decline
by FuckButtons on Sunday May 24, 2020 @12:00AM
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And then right around the corner is World War III.
You maybe, but how many others will? 10-20% less people in pubs, fewer tourists visiting west end shows, banks and other companies using work from home, could have a huge knock on effect on other businesses, property and taxes.