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Re:Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation pol... by threatofrain on Friday May 22, 2020 @03:29PM (#23275948)
I don't believe individuals have enough legal or political authority to take on all responsibility themselves if they were sharing questionable material. That means some of the responsibility falls on Google, because we the public shall demand it of them.

Google didn't delete anyone's files, and even then some responsibility already falls on them just for hosting your content. If Google were part of distribution, that would be a separate wrongdoing in the eyes of the public.

Google does not have the luxury of a government institution to which it may delegate all difficult questions of institutional responsibility (unlike the FDA or the FCC, both government organizations where companies may delegate responsibility), thus putting the pressure on Google to exercise oracle-like vision.

Re:Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation pol... by mindslight on Friday May 22, 2020 @03:48PM (#23276123)
The scrutiny is on Google due to their paperclip-maximizing promotion of specific Youtube videos and other content. This topic is about simple URL hosting, which does not involve editorializing. Your argument works just as well for an ISP, meaning it's a non-starter if we wish to retain any Freedom.
Re:Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation pol... by jeffbee on Friday May 22, 2020 @04:52PM (#23276854)
Name any ISP in America that will distribute your video worldwide for free.
Re:Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation pol... by salawat on Friday May 22, 2020 @05:47PM (#23277435)
All of them. You only pay for the ongoing connection/overall throughput/capacity. The entire world will be able to hit any server I put up and expose to the Net, and the content being served flows on through the ISP being none the wiser; despite excessive legislative and executive efforts to encourage otherwise.

Now, you've got the potential for QoS shenanigans, but I'm certain most people would wake up to the hard and fast line being crossed. Or I could be wrong and they'd just shake their heads disappointingly as my clearly by that point undesirable self was dragged out into the street and beaten half to death for daring to suggest that people should be able to communicate freely.

Re:Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation pol... by duskwuff on Friday May 22, 2020 @06:20PM (#23277723)
I think you may have overlooked the critical words "for free". Data traffic costs money.
Re:Google is now applying its coronavirus misinformation pol... by salawat on Friday May 22, 2020 @10:18PM (#23279245)
I did not. The original question was framed poorly. What was meant was "Name one endpoint provider who will serve your content for free." That would indeed be a short list. The ISP has nothing to do with serving the file. Only the transit. He got the answer to the question he asked because I'm getting weary of people strawmanning that people are freeloaders while they seemingly intentionally miss the bigger point that a behemoth of a private company is being leaned upon and taking upon itself the mantle of arbiter of appropriate content.

The fact everyone else seems to enjoy getting cavalier withthe details of just who does what in the context of Internet business transactions doesn't mean I have to perpetuate it.

Also, I do serve things for people without charging them. I have an Internet connection I need for other things. So why not? The ISP doesn't care. It's another packet among billions. It was what the hackers, anon's, and webmasters before me did; so I figure I should return the favor to the next gen. If that means a bunch of people end up getting in a tizzy; take it up with them (the people whose content to which you object). I'm not doing your dirty work, and no one else if they value the principles the web, and the country who invented the damn thing we're founded on.

I've been writing and rewriting the end of this damn post for about half an hour, which is generally a good sign I'm out of sorts. So let me wrap up with an apology if I've come off as abrasive. I do care. I don't like that the web seems so ripe a tool for the misinformation specialist. Now, even more than ever though, we need to be coming together and not figuring out how to push people or ideas off the Net, but being able to engage them head on, and bring the light back to what have increasingly become the "dark corners" of the Net. You may hate having the same argument over and over again. I understand that. Society though is a complexemergent organism all it's own built on the aggregate result of our collective signalling and behavior. Right now, the only outcome I can from the direction we're going is the complete ruin of everything Western Civilization purportedly held sacred because we've let the implementation run away with us, without keeping it chained to the spirit of the damn thing.

I know none of that probably makes any sense to anyone else but me. I just... Wanted to get it out there.

Anyway... Good night everyone. Stay safe.