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Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by m463 on Friday May 22, 2020 @12:22PM (#23273748)
People who have used ubuntu might want to just once try arch linux.

I had an ubuntu machine that took a while to boot even with an SSD. Later I installed arch linux on the same machine and boom! it would be to the desktop in seconds. It was night and day.

Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by zozbot234 on Friday May 22, 2020 @01:02PM (#23274308)
Debian is just as quick, and does not have the problematic "rolling" updates of Arch. (It does have the "testing" and "unstable" channels which are roughly comparable, but the Debian folks won't tell you to use them in production.)
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by m463 on Saturday May 23, 2020 @01:39AM (#23280235)
> problematic "rolling" updates

Rolling updates for me have not been problematic.

I've had a few updates that gave an error message, and they were easily fixed in one minute after searching the arch website.

I think one was a key expired - I had to manually update it and redo the update process.

The other I can recall was a package that had become obsolete/conflicting and a question had to be answered.

In general rolling updates are a tiny blip every few months.

In comparison, the several debian based distributions I've run have been a "lost weekend" type of upgrade for major updates.

Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by kick on Friday May 22, 2020 @02:15PM (#23275173)
Debian is not just as quick (significantly slower and higher resource usage), but Arch isn't all that fast nowadays, either.
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by Yetanfou on Saturday May 23, 2020 @08:36AM (#23282425)
Debian - or Devuan if you don't want systemd - can be made as spartan as you want. It boots in those mentioned few seconds on my 15yo T42p (Pentium [email protected], 2GB). Use Sid/Unstable if you want more up-to-date software with the accompanying larger flow of updates.
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by catalogia on Friday May 22, 2020 @03:57PM (#23276218)
> Debian is not just as quick (significantly slower and higher resource usage)

In which respects? Are you talking about apt vs pacman or something? Default DEs?

Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by kick on Friday May 22, 2020 @08:58PM (#23278810)
Default install; a default Debian install has about 3x running.