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Re:China to Allow State-Security Agents to Police Hong Kong by JumpCrisscross on Friday May 22, 2020 @11:24AM (#23273096)
> there is nothing the UK could have done

China would have immediately faced sanctions and the possibility of military support to dissident movements within its borders. Not to mention, accelerated arms sales to its neighbours.

Re:China to Allow State-Security Agents to Police Hong Kong by mytailorisrich on Friday May 22, 2020 @01:43PM (#23274836)
So nothing, really, because none of that would have made any difference to China at the time of Mao.

They could not have cared less about 'sanctions', which seem like a meaningless threat at the time of the Cold War and Maoist China.

The West was and still is supplying weapons to their neighbours, which is not very important, anyway.

As for 'dissident movements'... This is not a South American banana republic. The CIA probably did try things at some point but clearly to no effect because there is no 'dissident movement' of any scale.

From a historical point of view the question I am very interested in is why did Mao stop short of retaking Macao and HK, and of taking Taiwan in 1949?

They refrained from taking Russian colonial possessions in the North, which is understandable. But I am puzzles about the rest.

For HK and Macao, perhaps he wanted to respect treaties because he also wanted to rely on treaties regarding Tibet (which all the powers recognised as Chinese by previous treaty), I don't know.

Re:China to Allow State-Security Agents to Police Hong Kong by JumpCrisscross on Saturday May 23, 2020 @06:13AM (#23281704)
> none of that would have made any difference to China at the time of Mao

Mao was long dead when the relevant treaties were negotiated.

> CIA probably did try things at some point but clearly to no effect because there is no 'dissident movement' of any scale

In the late 90s, the West best over backwards to accommodate China. It was a new market and stable Asian power.

Modern China has dissident and separatist movements. The NPC has prioritised legislation precisely to head off the threat. Censors scrub the Hong Kong and Tianamen Square protests for similar reasons.

> why did Mao stop short of retaking Macao and HK, and of taking Taiwan in 1949?

He didn’t have the firepower. Water crossings are taxing. It would have taken a full military commitment, and still left the endpoint uncertain. Consolidating power on the mainland was the more prudent move.

Re:China to Allow State-Security Agents to Police Hong Kong by mytailorisrich on Sunday May 24, 2020 @04:48AM (#23290162)
"Mao was long dead when the relevant treaties were negotiated"

We're discussing the option communist China had to take HK back by force. The point is thus why that did not occur in 1949 or the 50s.